How many E-Force supercharger owners do we have here on the forum??
#21
Team Owner
I put the 599 kit on my car in February 2013 at just over 3k miles on my 2013. I now have just a hair over 10k miles.
Only issue was an idler pulley (after the supercharger) that went bad and the belt that came with the kit being junk. A GATES BLUE RACING BELT is on now. Everything seems good though. Wish I had more power. The Edelbrock tune I feel i spulling a lot of timing. When it gets warm the car is still quick but you can feel it lose some power.
Only issue was an idler pulley (after the supercharger) that went bad and the belt that came with the kit being junk. A GATES BLUE RACING BELT is on now. Everything seems good though. Wish I had more power. The Edelbrock tune I feel i spulling a lot of timing. When it gets warm the car is still quick but you can feel it lose some power.
#22
#24
I put the 599 kit on my car in February 2013 at just over 3k miles on my 2013. I now have just a hair over 10k miles.
Only issue was an idler pulley (after the supercharger) that went bad and the belt that came with the kit being junk. A GATES BLUE RACING BELT is on now. Everything seems good though. Wish I had more power. The Edelbrock tune I feel i spulling a lot of timing. When it gets warm the car is still quick but you can feel it lose some power.
Only issue was an idler pulley (after the supercharger) that went bad and the belt that came with the kit being junk. A GATES BLUE RACING BELT is on now. Everything seems good though. Wish I had more power. The Edelbrock tune I feel i spulling a lot of timing. When it gets warm the car is still quick but you can feel it lose some power.
#25
Team Owner
The Edelbrock tune is simply a safe conservative one size fits all cars tune. Lots of power left on the table. The Edelbrock's tune netted an 1/8 mile time of 7.740 @ 96 mph and a 1/4 mile time of 11.747 @ 123.35 mph. The low end torque is missing in their tune which is most notable in an automatic I suppose. The 60' times were 1.97. Couldn't spin the tires no matter how hard I tried. Anyway tune it or get it tuned and you'll be happier!!!
Plan is to get a real tune on it in a while...not sure when. I need to buy another house in Florida and get a DD so I can mod the Vette.
Let me add the item of a rich woman with big hooters to that list.
#26
I put the 599 kit on my car in February 2013 at just over 3k miles on my 2013. I now have just a hair over 10k miles.
Only issue was an idler pulley (after the supercharger) that went bad and the belt that came with the kit being junk. A GATES BLUE RACING BELT is on now. Everything seems good though. Wish I had more power. The Edelbrock tune I feel i spulling a lot of timing. When it gets warm the car is still quick but you can feel it lose some power.
Only issue was an idler pulley (after the supercharger) that went bad and the belt that came with the kit being junk. A GATES BLUE RACING BELT is on now. Everything seems good though. Wish I had more power. The Edelbrock tune I feel i spulling a lot of timing. When it gets warm the car is still quick but you can feel it lose some power.
Guess the only way to remove the timing issue is get the setup hot and tune it with as much monitoring as you can.
I guess as you have the cooled air passing very close to the blower itself there is always going to be some heat transfer. Maybe some thermal barrier coating (like on piston tops) could be applied to the runners to help reduce the heat transfer?
#27
Team Owner
What do you feel is the reason for the heat soak? Is it just the intercoolers cant pull enough heat out (are they single or dual pass?), too small a HE, or dose the unit just heat up?
Guess the only way to remove the timing issue is get the setup hot and tune it with as much monitoring as you can.
I guess as you have the cooled air passing very close to the blower itself there is always going to be some heat transfer. Maybe some thermal barrier coating (like on piston tops) could be applied to the runners to help reduce the heat transfer?
Guess the only way to remove the timing issue is get the setup hot and tune it with as much monitoring as you can.
I guess as you have the cooled air passing very close to the blower itself there is always going to be some heat transfer. Maybe some thermal barrier coating (like on piston tops) could be applied to the runners to help reduce the heat transfer?
Not sure about where to put it or what to do. I would hate to block off the radiator anymore than it is.
#29
Race Director
Ours has a custom tune due to the fact that we installed Kooks headers and hi flo cats. This past spring in really good air, 55 degrees, it went a 7.39 1/8th and a 11.39 1/4 3 times back to back. This summer, in 85-94 degree weather it has been a best 1/8th of 7.55. It usually goes 7.77 on the first pass and then goes down into the 7.60's and 7.50's, but that has been cooling it with ice water. I've just now added nitrous, but will only use a very small shot just to overcome the heat. The starter at the strip doesn't like it when we cool with water so this will alleviate the need for that and when it gets cooler we will be back in the low 7's again. I really don't want to go much quicker than that due to the added stress on the driveline. We drive ours every day and is our main mode of transport.
#30
Le Mans Master
I believe the heat soak issue is exaggerated by the placement of the IAT sensor. This shows up when you park for a few minutes, and the temp increases dramatically. The sensor absorbs the heat from the hot metal supercharger. I am convinced that the actual air passing through is not that temp, but cant prove that.
#31
Hrm....with the 599 kit I can be in 2nd gear and going 25 mph and the rear tires spin with ease. Not if heat soaked but outside of that its no issue.
Plan is to get a real tune on it in a while...not sure when. I need to buy another house in Florida and get a DD so I can mod the Vette.
Let me add the item of a rich woman with big hooters to that list.
Plan is to get a real tune on it in a while...not sure when. I need to buy another house in Florida and get a DD so I can mod the Vette.
Let me add the item of a rich woman with big hooters to that list.
The canned tune will make power after you get the rpm up a little.
#32
I believe the heat soak issue is exaggerated by the placement of the IAT sensor. This shows up when you park for a few minutes, and the temp increases dramatically. The sensor absorbs the heat from the hot metal supercharger. I am convinced that the actual air passing through is not that temp, but cant prove that.
#33
Le Mans Master
The water is cooler like this, but it didn't have much effect on the IAT temps. I may try a stronger pump, but haven't decided yet.
#34
After some changes, (bigger tank and heat shield on the hoses) the water in my reservoir gets warm, but not to hot. I did once have the fuse blow on the pump and the water really got hot that time.
The water is cooler like this, but it didn't have much effect on the IAT temps. I may try a stronger pump, but haven't decided yet.
The water is cooler like this, but it didn't have much effect on the IAT temps. I may try a stronger pump, but haven't decided yet.
#35
Le Mans Master
Yes. There is a drain on the reservoir. Just drain out some coolant and add ice between runs. The with a switch run the pump while the car is sitting and it will cool everything down some.
#36
Drifting
Anyone with the E force also doing auto cross and HPDE events? If so, how is it. I have the blower ready to be installed, but I have gotten hooked on driving the bejesus out of the car on weekends (Ok, Im still a novice, but I will ring in out on weekend events)...
How is the heat?
Any other issues?
Should I just stay NA?
How is the heat?
Any other issues?
Should I just stay NA?
#37
Race Director
eforce
Anyone with the E force also doing auto cross and HPDE events? If so, how is it. I have the blower ready to be installed, but I have gotten hooked on driving the bejesus out of the car on weekends (Ok, Im still a novice, but I will ring in out on weekend events)...
How is the heat?
Any other issues?
Should I just stay NA?
How is the heat?
Any other issues?
Should I just stay NA?
#38
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St. Jude Donor '10-'11
I have had the base system installed by Dr. Phil back in the spring of 2010.
No issues other than elevated heart beats per minute.
No issues other than elevated heart beats per minute.
#39
Dose the water flow from the intercooler bricks to the header tank on the Eforce? If so you would expect the water in the tank to be HOT rather than look warm.
#40
Pro
I installed the E-Force 549 kit March of 2011 (06 A6 LS2 Vert). I have since dropped two pulley sizes (currently using the 3.25"pulley) and changed out the intercooler reservoir, same configuration as realcanuk. Siphoning off warm intercooler coolant at the track, adding ice and water wetter has helped drop my IAT's from 147* to 127 - 133* at the starting line with ambient at 91* (DA of 9200). I have my intercooler pump on a switch which I use to run the pump when the car is not running. I add about a gallon of ice, run the pump with the motor off and the E-Force cools down quite nicely.