F1X C6-driveline-interior-suspension build-pics
08-19-2014, 05:59 PM
#41
Melting Slicks
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Not saying it WON'T make power, just stating that the outlet size of the compressor housing is designed to be that size for a reason. (In relation to the inlet size, impeller CFM, etc) Any reduction in that outlet DRASTICALLY changes the entire compressor map.
The #1 thing to do actually would be to go UP in size right at the outlet. And corvettes are super easy to make 4" or 3.5" intercooler tubing for if you are already doing a custom intercooler and mounting.
If your already doing a huge build, and lots of custom work, why keep the restrictive 3" tubing? Thats like having a huge fuel pump in the back, and stock lines.
If you have the car apart and the time to do it, it would be a good idea to change it. (If you had something like a F-1A, it wouldn't be much of an issue, that blower is pretty much done with CFM about the same time the tubing would be.)
A bunch of people wonder why they break F-1X's and other larger blowers, though a lot of times its simple stuff that causes big issues. Wrong gear/pulley combos causing overspinning of blower, or because of the compressor surge they are inducing by having restrictions placed right at the outlet of the blower, not having enough bypass valve air, or over-spinning the blower because of a restriction on the outlet side, poor intercooler, etc.
Its the little differences that make HUGE HP differences at that power level.
Example: Two identical cars, with F-1X's, spinning blowers to the same rpm... lets say MAX. One car makes 1350 rwhp, the other makes 1575 rwhp. With the only difference being the intercooler tubing, and intercooler. Usually the first thing the person making 1350 rwhp sees is they are making less boost, and less HP. And the FIRST thing they do, is put a smaller pulley on it. Then what happens?..... BOOM goes the blower.
Not saying thats the only way to break stuff, just stating that reducing the outlet tubing is never a good idea, (same with putting a 90deg turn right at the outlet)
In the end, is it the end of the world, NOPE.
But is it worth the change, YES.
Is this going to be an awesome build, DOUBLE YES!
The #1 thing to do actually would be to go UP in size right at the outlet. And corvettes are super easy to make 4" or 3.5" intercooler tubing for if you are already doing a custom intercooler and mounting.
If your already doing a huge build, and lots of custom work, why keep the restrictive 3" tubing? Thats like having a huge fuel pump in the back, and stock lines.
If you have the car apart and the time to do it, it would be a good idea to change it. (If you had something like a F-1A, it wouldn't be much of an issue, that blower is pretty much done with CFM about the same time the tubing would be.)
A bunch of people wonder why they break F-1X's and other larger blowers, though a lot of times its simple stuff that causes big issues. Wrong gear/pulley combos causing overspinning of blower, or because of the compressor surge they are inducing by having restrictions placed right at the outlet of the blower, not having enough bypass valve air, or over-spinning the blower because of a restriction on the outlet side, poor intercooler, etc.
Its the little differences that make HUGE HP differences at that power level.
Example: Two identical cars, with F-1X's, spinning blowers to the same rpm... lets say MAX. One car makes 1350 rwhp, the other makes 1575 rwhp. With the only difference being the intercooler tubing, and intercooler. Usually the first thing the person making 1350 rwhp sees is they are making less boost, and less HP. And the FIRST thing they do, is put a smaller pulley on it. Then what happens?..... BOOM goes the blower.
Not saying thats the only way to break stuff, just stating that reducing the outlet tubing is never a good idea, (same with putting a 90deg turn right at the outlet)
In the end, is it the end of the world, NOPE.
But is it worth the change, YES.
Is this going to be an awesome build, DOUBLE YES!
I will say when dealing with this large of diameter tubing, on a corvette...it is difficult to route custom tubing around everything. 3"..not to much of a problem...anything more then that...sway bars..fans, brackets..etc...everything suddenly is in the way of everything. I am not the owner of the C6, so I didn't wanna alter the car too much, or make it rocket science to be serviced. I figure the car should make around 1100rwhp and call it a day at the level it'll be at. Hopefully, for my friends sake..everything will be fine on the blower side....and everything will be dandy.
If not...well..., not the end of the world, we have a way out.
Thank you
08-21-2014, 01:33 AM
#42
Did the QA1's just bolt right up and which part numbers did you use, did you have to modify anything to make them work?! I ordered a se by later was told that they couldn't fulfill the order because they wouldn't fit a c6 but would fit a c5!
Frankie
Frankie
08-21-2014, 05:41 PM
#43
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
I will ask him where he found them.
08-24-2014, 08:22 PM
#44
Thanks
I will ask the man himself, where he ordered from. What I do know, if that the QA1's he got where at a really good cost.....everything was disassembled(probably why the cost was low). I assembled them and installed them on the C6....which I don't remember any issues except for me being a crybaby saying "F***! I gotta build the coilovers." after I opened the box. Wasn't a big deal at all...took 3-5 min build time each.
I will ask him where he found them.
I will ask him where he found them.
08-27-2014, 03:58 PM
#46
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
"Corvette mods" (forum vendor)
or
call Johnny @ performance corvettes
800-516-3446 is what I was just sent via text.
Been in and outta town...hoping to jump back on this car and mine in 2 weeks. going to Indianapolis for the US nationals tomorrow!!!!
:roc k:
or
call Johnny @ performance corvettes
800-516-3446 is what I was just sent via text.
Been in and outta town...hoping to jump back on this car and mine in 2 weeks. going to Indianapolis for the US nationals tomorrow!!!!
:roc k:
09-14-2016, 01:51 PM
#48
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
So...the long awaited build.
First start up. Gas pedal failure, and no real tune in the car. Video does not justice to how loud this thing is. Few bugs to work out...then we'll install ProEfi and start driving.
First start up. Gas pedal failure, and no real tune in the car. Video does not justice to how loud this thing is. Few bugs to work out...then we'll install ProEfi and start driving.
09-14-2016, 02:38 PM
#50
Melting Slicks
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