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04-18-2014, 02:30 AM
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First of all, I wish this is not a duplicate thread. The reason I am asking for this, is to come up with an average, deviation, max and min numbers for LS7 output on stock block on the dyno.
Please do mention the dyno, temperature, barometer; "mileage", also adding the max torque would be great as well.
I am starting to get a little dissapointed with my Z, not the Z in general just my personal Z. For some reason, I think I own the slowest Z in the planet, and just to know how long the stock short block will handle the power now I am putting down 608whp @ 6PSI Procharge D1SC + Kooks 1-7/8 with off road x-pipe .. everything els is stock .. planning to add cam kit .. not sure if the short block will handle until the 700hp or not .. that's why I post this thread to make sure i'm in the safe mood.
thanks.
Please do mention the dyno, temperature, barometer; "mileage", also adding the max torque would be great as well.
I am starting to get a little dissapointed with my Z, not the Z in general just my personal Z. For some reason, I think I own the slowest Z in the planet, and just to know how long the stock short block will handle the power now I am putting down 608whp @ 6PSI Procharge D1SC + Kooks 1-7/8 with off road x-pipe .. everything els is stock .. planning to add cam kit .. not sure if the short block will handle until the 700hp or not .. that's why I post this thread to make sure i'm in the safe mood.
thanks.
you can hit 650hp easily with no mods except re-tuning your car with meth your car has meth but it was never tuned with meth. Meth can make your car runs rich with your current tune if your trying to target 11.5 at WOT with meth your are most likely to be at 12~13 AFR.
what I suggest you to do is retune it with meth and let your tuner also tune it safe. ask him if he can adjust the IAT VS spark table this table will help if the meth system fail this table will - timing from the engine to avoid knock. and where is your meth nozzle located ? MAF => nozzle=> IAT sensor ? what system are your using ?
And also if you are looking to add some mods nothing batter that replacing your stock LS7 heads with aftermarket heads.
04-18-2014, 04:11 AM
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I've talked to "some" of the top tuners on this site and some didn't want to even go/recommend above 650whp on the ls7. Yes i know people have done it but this is coming from what 99% of this community would consider to be great tuners which is why it makes it so much harder when people say find a good tuner because I've contacted the obvious ones and they weren't saying 750 which is why I feel they aren't as known as some may think. And if they happen to be some of the shops I've already called that means people said to them "this is my goal make it happen with as safe a tune as you can give me", then coming back here and telling everyone it's safe, even though the tuners "actual safe tune/limit" is long gone.
and then I was acting like an idiot and asking why it's from the catback ? and I got the answer that made me show him my middle finger 
he said over boosting is cause the cat back must be cleared from filters, few months ago a G8 comes with the same issue the release the filters and it's runs good, I understand he won't work on Z cause he wanna keep his name high on the marketing .. so the day after it I took it to Taqi's performance and the guy there told me it's SO EASY to solve the issue I was like .. here is another idiot .. 
but actually the guy did the car works well and fine .. as I told you most of them won't lose his name cause the LS7 is hard to treat.
04-18-2014, 04:18 AM
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I saw your other thread your trying to hit 650hp on you z06.
you can hit 650hp easily with no mods except re-tuning your car with meth your car has meth but it was never tuned with meth. Meth can make your car runs rich with your current tune if your trying to target 11.5 at WOT with meth your are most likely to be at 12~13 AFR.
what I suggest you to do is retune it with meth and let your tuner also tune it safe. ask him if he can adjust the IAT VS spark table this table will help if the meth system fail this table will - timing from the engine to avoid knock. and where is your meth nozzle located ? MAF => nozzle=> IAT sensor ? what system are your using ?
And also if you are looking to add some mods nothing batter that replacing your stock LS7 heads with aftermarket heads.
you can hit 650hp easily with no mods except re-tuning your car with meth your car has meth but it was never tuned with meth. Meth can make your car runs rich with your current tune if your trying to target 11.5 at WOT with meth your are most likely to be at 12~13 AFR.
what I suggest you to do is retune it with meth and let your tuner also tune it safe. ask him if he can adjust the IAT VS spark table this table will help if the meth system fail this table will - timing from the engine to avoid knock. and where is your meth nozzle located ? MAF => nozzle=> IAT sensor ? what system are your using ?
And also if you are looking to add some mods nothing batter that replacing your stock LS7 heads with aftermarket heads.
he's briefer race gas on meth and he gave a good reason to me .. what will happen if the meth system hang or get an issue LOSING AN ENGINE 
so I said tuning a car on pump gas is great since it's made a good numbers and I wasn't thinking of being 600hp on that moods ... and about the meth nozzle it's double located on the MAF and I'm running the M3 meth .. and about the heads i'm looking forward to add heads sooner or later I most go with LSX cause one day that LS7 will had enough. 
04-18-2014, 05:11 AM
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well I know it's easy to reach the 650hp with meth but the problem when your tuner hates the meth he's briefer race gas on meth and he gave a good reason to me .. what will happen if the meth system hang or get an issue LOSING AN ENGINE so I said tuning a car on pump gas is great since it's made a good numbers and I wasn't thinking of being 600hp on that moods ... and about the meth nozzle it's double located on the MAF and I'm running the M3 meth .. and about the heads i'm looking forward to add heads sooner or later I most go with LSX cause one day that LS7 will had enough.
he's briefer race gas on meth and he gave a good reason to me .. what will happen if the meth system hang or get an issue LOSING AN ENGINE so I said tuning a car on pump gas is great since it's made a good numbers and I wasn't thinking of being 600hp on that moods ... and about the meth nozzle it's double located on the MAF and I'm running the M3 meth .. and about the heads i'm looking forward to add heads sooner or later I most go with LSX cause one day that LS7 will had enough. save some weight and build your ls7 block instead of going with LSX iron block
04-18-2014, 08:30 AM
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LS3 605 RWHP Magnuson Heartbeat at 5PSI, Anti Venom blower cam, Trick Flow Heads, BB long tubes, X-pipe with high flow cat's, BB Fusion cat-backs, Stock A6 trans, stock fuel system, pump gas, no meth'.
04-18-2014, 12:27 PM
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Burning Brakes
Stock ls3 ci
Forged rods/pistons
AFR 230s
Fast 102
Aruns Jam Cam
2200SL @17psi
Car hit 850, but blower popped on the dyno during tuning. Waiting on new blower to show up still. Plan on staying with the same 3.5 pulley for now. I expect about 875.
This is on 91 octane, and methanol
Forged rods/pistons
AFR 230s
Fast 102
Aruns Jam Cam
2200SL @17psi
Car hit 850, but blower popped on the dyno during tuning. Waiting on new blower to show up still. Plan on staying with the same 3.5 pulley for now. I expect about 875.
This is on 91 octane, and methanol
04-18-2014, 06:31 PM
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Its true that meth failure could cause damages to your engine but with I good tuner who knows what he's doin ,he can but some safe margin to it. As I told you before there is a table on the tuning file that can help the engine not getting advance spark when the meth in not on its called SPARK vs IAT. He should not add timing on the on the main spark table when the meth is not sprayed. and also if he wants to tune it safe let him run your AFR at WOT to 12 or Lambda 0.82 this way you avoid putting your engine at risk. duel nozzle on 600hp is too much I ran the second nozzle when I'm at 762hp
save some weight and build your ls7 block instead of going with LSX iron block
save some weight and build your ls7 block instead of going with LSX iron block
for the great informations I'll talk to the tuner tomorrow first thing in the morning and I just ordered those stuff for my Z I think I'm broke until the salary Mast Motorsports LS7 285cc 12* Large Bore Cylinder Head. Solid Stainless Steel Intake and Exhaust Valves
Dual Springs with Ti retainers
LS7 Rocker Arm Stands
Vengeance Racing Custom Camshaft
Vengeance Racing 5/16th 7.400 Hardened Pushrods
Comp Trunion Kit for Stock Rockers
C5R Timing Chain
ARP Cam Bolts
GM Crank Bolt
GM Front Cover Seal
GM Front Cover Gasket
GM Waterpump Gaskets
RPS Street Twin Full Carbon Clutch Kit including flywheel and slave adapter
GM Slave Cylinder for C6/C6 Z06 Corvette
Tick Performance Adjustable Master cylinder- Long Line- Requires Removal of Torque Tube for Installation
Does not include Speed bleeder
160 Degree Thermostat GM LS7
Ron Davis Radiator for C6 Z06
LG GT2 Coilovers
that's the upcoming stuff for my Z
maybe I'll built another LS7 short block next month if the weight is too high in LSX or RHS is another choose to go with.
04-20-2014, 08:15 AM
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04-20-2014, 09:33 AM
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04-20-2014, 10:01 AM
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17-‘18-'19-'20-'21-'22-'23-'24
Here's mine..
Stock bottom end LS3
A&A V3 SI with a 3.4 Pulley
Lethal Night Fury Cam
Meth
Kook's 1 7/8" Headers
Vigilante 3 disc 2800 Stall
Stock bottom end LS3
A&A V3 SI with a 3.4 Pulley
Lethal Night Fury Cam
Meth
Kook's 1 7/8" Headers
Vigilante 3 disc 2800 Stall
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04-20-2014, 10:22 AM
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760 whpr. 95 degree day.
stock LS2 with Paxton/ECS 1500, stage 1 fuel system, meth, headers and full exhaust through 4.10 gears.
10000 miles on set up, 20000 on car.
stock LS2 with Paxton/ECS 1500, stage 1 fuel system, meth, headers and full exhaust through 4.10 gears.
10000 miles on set up, 20000 on car.
04-20-2014, 11:55 AM
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I've talked to "some" of the top tuners on this site and some didn't want to even go/recommend above 650whp on the ls7. Yes i know people have done it but this is coming from what 99% of this community would consider to be great tuners which is why it makes it so much harder when people say find a good tuner because I've contacted the obvious ones and they weren't saying 750 which is why I feel they aren't as known as some may think. And if they happen to be some of the shops I've already called that means people said to them "this is my goal make it happen with as safe a tune as you can give me", then coming back here and telling everyone it's safe, even though the tuners "actual safe tune/limit" is long gone.
04-20-2014, 12:06 PM
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805hp / 680tq
08 z06 8k miles stock bottom end. Made 587hp with just the d1sc (4.75 pully), injectors, BAP, kooks headers and x-pipe, and dewitts.
Was kinda disappointed so I decided to do stage 2 heads, vrsc-2 cam, meth, ported stock intake/tb, big mouth filter, ect.. still kept the same pully and hit over 800hp! Now I have new rims and tires on the way cause of traction issues.
08 z06 8k miles stock bottom end. Made 587hp with just the d1sc (4.75 pully), injectors, BAP, kooks headers and x-pipe, and dewitts.
Was kinda disappointed so I decided to do stage 2 heads, vrsc-2 cam, meth, ported stock intake/tb, big mouth filter, ect.. still kept the same pully and hit over 800hp! Now I have new rims and tires on the way cause of traction issues.
04-20-2014, 12:43 PM
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FML I just need to get a D1 and toss this P1.
650/556 w/ a P1SC, TSP blower cam, long tubes, meth and slightly dished pistons.
Was 664/590 but right now one of the meth nozzles is leaking and I'm waiting to finish up my crankcase venting options before the full pulls. Should be closer to 700. Big thing is the crappy procharger inlet that I need to get rid of.
650/556 w/ a P1SC, TSP blower cam, long tubes, meth and slightly dished pistons.
Was 664/590 but right now one of the meth nozzles is leaking and I'm waiting to finish up my crankcase venting options before the full pulls. Should be closer to 700. Big thing is the crappy procharger inlet that I need to get rid of.