ECS SL 1500 Troubles
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Drifting
I don't know you guys but I can clearly deduct from the last pics the OP posted that the bolt snapped off. The one end that goes through the swivel area of the bracket looks like its still in but the other side(bolt head and some)that goes through the pulley is MIA.
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I have the SAME problem with belt shredding. I was told to check the pulleys. I thought it was my tensioner pulley so I tightened that with the a new belt and everything looked/ran great until I took it for a hard drive and the belt shredded again. Ironically, my belt (two of them now) looks EXACTLY like yours. I put the car on ramps and looked underneath while running the car (can't see too well) and it looks like my idler pulley might be a little loose. Has to be a pulley that is off for the belt to shear on the edge like that. My tensioner pulley also vibrates and makes a rattly noise though.. I hope it's the idler and not bearing damage.
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Main thing to keep in consideration is was it fine for a long time and all of a sudden started throwing belts? Then it's likely to be a failed part. If it has always been an issue from day one it most likely needs a realigning of the pulleys.
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Main thing to keep in consideration is was it fine for a long time and all of a sudden started throwing belts? Then it's likely to be a failed part. If it has always been an issue from day one it most likely needs a realigning of the pulleys.
Feel free to call us if we can help.
Feel free to call us if we can help.
SC was installed by your shop and only have 2500 miles since install.
Car has not seen the track and had no problems with it until this discovery.
It is a beast and I love it by the way.
After install I had surgery on the right foot so my time has been limited driving it the past two years. Now that I am better well this happened.
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#29
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Yeah you were right on with your previous assessments of my pictures.
Exactly as you stated.
Now I need to find a bolt and figure out how to remove the SC and fit the tensioner back in. Seems simple but I have no gear head skills. LOL. What a shame. My wife just laughed at me doing this.
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Probably easier to just goto home depot/lowes/ace/any hardward store and buy a bolt.
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Drifting
Yeah you were right on with your previous assessments of my pictures.
Exactly as you stated.
Now I need to find a bolt and figure out how to remove the SC and fit the tensioner back in. Seems simple but I have no gear head skills. LOL. What a shame. My wife just laughed at me doing this.
Exactly as you stated.
Now I need to find a bolt and figure out how to remove the SC and fit the tensioner back in. Seems simple but I have no gear head skills. LOL. What a shame. My wife just laughed at me doing this.
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Going to drag up and old thread.. sorry
Did you figure out the root cause on yours? Mine did the same thing yesterday it looks like. Same bolt is broke in the same place. I'm not a fan of using fully threaded bolts, but I would guess there is a reason they used one there.
Found one at Lowe's but it isn't threaded the whole way (which I prefer, if it'll work), so I will have to see if there are enough threads for it to work OK. May take another washer or something to make it work out.
I haven't figured out whether something came loose and then the bolt got bent when the belt came off, or if the bolt got bent another way and that caused the belt to come off. My complete and total guess is by using a longer belt than what comes with the kit, once the belt stretched I may have been out of adjustment on the sprung tensioner. Then belt comes off, somewhere along the way bending this bolt.. then I finished it off trying to get it apart.
edit: Another thought.. my balancer shredded itself after my first startup, and the belt ended up riding on the outer lip of the balancer, which pulled it ridiculously tight. It's possible that this bolt was bent then or something, and lasted OK until now.
I looked at the belt a day or two ago and it looked OK, but I did notice the spring loaded tensioner getting pretty far through it's travel.. but I didn't think to check and make sure the manual tensioner was doing OK. Guess I'll go back to trying to get the ECS supplied belt on and keep the longer one as a spare for roadside repair if ever necessary
I ended up having to loosen the alternator last time I actually managed to get the ECS supplied one on. I believe it came with an 895.. I was using a 900
Did you figure out the root cause on yours? Mine did the same thing yesterday it looks like. Same bolt is broke in the same place. I'm not a fan of using fully threaded bolts, but I would guess there is a reason they used one there.
Found one at Lowe's but it isn't threaded the whole way (which I prefer, if it'll work), so I will have to see if there are enough threads for it to work OK. May take another washer or something to make it work out.
I haven't figured out whether something came loose and then the bolt got bent when the belt came off, or if the bolt got bent another way and that caused the belt to come off. My complete and total guess is by using a longer belt than what comes with the kit, once the belt stretched I may have been out of adjustment on the sprung tensioner. Then belt comes off, somewhere along the way bending this bolt.. then I finished it off trying to get it apart.
edit: Another thought.. my balancer shredded itself after my first startup, and the belt ended up riding on the outer lip of the balancer, which pulled it ridiculously tight. It's possible that this bolt was bent then or something, and lasted OK until now.
I looked at the belt a day or two ago and it looked OK, but I did notice the spring loaded tensioner getting pretty far through it's travel.. but I didn't think to check and make sure the manual tensioner was doing OK. Guess I'll go back to trying to get the ECS supplied belt on and keep the longer one as a spare for roadside repair if ever necessary
I ended up having to loosen the alternator last time I actually managed to get the ECS supplied one on. I believe it came with an 895.. I was using a 900
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I am not sure what the cause was.
As for the bolt I did the same thing by getting the grade 8 bolt from Lowes.
However the techs from ECS told me they only use the threaded bolt. So they just sent me the bolt they use. I could not find anything like it anywhere
Get the bolt from ECS.
As for the bolt I did the same thing by getting the grade 8 bolt from Lowes.
However the techs from ECS told me they only use the threaded bolt. So they just sent me the bolt they use. I could not find anything like it anywhere
Get the bolt from ECS.
#38
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I dont see the point on using a full threaded bolt if the pulley doesnt have threads in the inside. In my opinion the threads makes it weaker since the bolt has less of a thickness (mass) in the pulley area.
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I guess the idea is that way you can not over tighten the bolt holding the pulley itself on, but CAN tighten the nut holding the manual tensioner still a lot if you want to.
Man I wish I had taken a picture. I'll get one though.
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