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Old 07-24-2014, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvettinator
Actually, the passing of CARB was done by A&A Corvette, not Vortech, and it was only in the last 3 years or so. So if you bought one before that, it wouldn't have had a CARB # yet.
That is actually not quite correct. The earlier A&A kits came with head units that carried Vortech's CARB certification number for their (Vortech) C6 Corvette supercharger systems. Technically, the A&A system wasn't smog legal, but the number that came on the head units really made it a non-issue.

A&A just did their own CARB certification in the last year or so. That you are correct about. I bought a T-trim head unit from A&A back in 2010, and it had the Vortech CARB number. It was what made me choose A&A over ECS -- and something ECS was never too happy with as it wasn't truly legal.

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Old 07-25-2014, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Streetk14
That is actually not quite correct. The earlier A&A kits came with head units that carried Vortech's CARB certification number for their (Vortech) C6 Corvette supercharger systems. Technically, the A&A system wasn't smog legal, but the number that came on the head units really made it a non-issue.

A&A just did their own CARB certification in the last year or so. That you are correct about. I bought a T-trim head unit from A&A back in 2010, and it had the Vortech CARB number. It was what made me choose A&A over ECS -- and something ECS was never too happy with as it wasn't truly legal.



Vortech had CARB legal kits dating back to the C5 (and C4 too I believe). With A&A using the Vortech head unit, it allowed us CA residents to have no issues whatsoever with passing smog. I have an A&A kit from 2009....with a CARB id stamped on the Vortech head unit

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Old 07-26-2014, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tlove32


Vortech had CARB legal kits dating back to the C5 (and C4 too I believe). With A&A using the Vortech head unit, it allowed us CA residents to have no issues whatsoever with passing smog. I have an A&A kit from 2009....with a CARB id stamped on the Vortech head unit
I stand corrected on my earlier statement. I just checked and I do have a CARB number stamped on the Vortech head. I think it must have been the long tube headers that caused the visual inspection failure.
Old 07-26-2014, 06:15 PM
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I stand corrected on my earlier statement. I just checked and I do have a CARB number stamped on the Vortech head. I think it must have been the long tube headers that caused the visual inspection failure.
Yeah, the headers will definitely do it. Got to either swap them out every couple years once the car is old enough to get into the regular testing phase, or replace them with something like a Z06/ZR1 manifold setup that looks original.

There's a reason I like playing with cars that are either pre-smog, or new enough that no testing/inspection is required
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I finally got my car smogged. No issues at all. Tech didn't even ask about CARB. I was in and out in 10 minutes. Anyone near Corona should check out AA Smog Center.

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Originally Posted by psxer989
I finally got my car smogged. No issues at all. Tech didn't even ask about CARB. I was in and out in 10 minutes. Anyone near Corona should check out AA Smog Center.

Larry
Hey Larry,

Thanks for reporting back! A&A Corvette will be installing a V3 Si soon and I will also need a smog certificate at the end of the year.

What S/C and pulley size did you have installed? What was your RWHP with the conservative tune? You can PM me if you prefer.

Thanks.
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Mike, I had the V3 put in last year. Pulley is the 3.8" since I have an LS2. I had 140,000 on my car at the time (daily driver) so maximum hp wasn't ideal. Right now I get 500 to the wheels. I have an A6 and the downshifts were annoying, especially in traffic. Seems common with automatics. One of the transmission vendors here customized my tune to eliminate the problem.
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Originally Posted by psxer989
Mike, I had the V3 put in last year. Pulley is the 3.8" since I have an LS2. I had 140,000 on my car at the time (daily driver) so maximum hp wasn't ideal. Right now I get 500 to the wheels. I have an A6 and the downshifts were annoying, especially in traffic. Seems common with automatics. One of the transmission vendors here customized my tune to eliminate the problem.
I understand going more conservatively in a high miles car, but LS2's are actually more boost tolerant than LS3's due to lower compression, no?
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No, the Ls2 has higher compression than the Ls3.
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Originally Posted by psxer989
Mike, I had the V3 put in last year. Pulley is the 3.8" since I have an LS2. I had 140,000 on my car at the time (daily driver) so maximum hp wasn't ideal. Right now I get 500 to the wheels. I have an A6 and the downshifts were annoying, especially in traffic. Seems common with automatics. One of the transmission vendors here customized my tune to eliminate the problem.
Thanks Larry, under the same circumstances I would do the same.
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Originally Posted by Corvettinator
I understand going more conservatively in a high miles car, but LS2's are actually more boost tolerant than LS3's due to lower compression, no?
LS2 - 10.9 CR
LS3 - 10.7 CR with better flowing heads, air intake, intake manifold and added strength to the block webbing. The rod bolts were
upgraded along with piston ring design for improved oil control. The LS3 has many little improvements that should make it more
boost tolerant.

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Originally Posted by Mike's LS3
LS2 - 10.9 CR
LS3 - 10.7 CR with better flowing heads, air intake, intake manifold and added strength to the block webbing. The rod bolts were
upgraded along with piston ring design for improved oil control. The LS3 has many little improvements that should make it more
boost tolerant.
Wow, I could have sworn I read the opposite somewhere. Damn Internet forums!

Amazing how much I learn here about Vette models I don't have.

Anyway, enjoy the "new" car. Andy did mine (that's my GS on their dyno in my avatar), and I went back to A&A for meth. Contemplating my next mod.

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Originally Posted by Corvettinator
Wow, I could have sworn I read the opposite somewhere. Damn Internet forums!

Amazing how much I learn here about Vette models I don't have.

Anyway, enjoy the "new" car. Andy did mine (that's my GS on their dyno in my avatar), and I went back to A&A for meth. Contemplating my next mod.
Awesome! I'll post an update in a few weeks when it gets installed.



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