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I'm so deep in my NA build though I doubt I would do it. Just wondering if anyone else had.
My NA motor should make as much power as a lot of guys zr1s though.
Lsx block, 434in, etp heads, jessel rockers, solid roller cam, sheet metal intake, 13.5:1 compression, even has a direct port from nitrous outlet.
I think a TVS2300 fits a huge amount of builds on this forum. Not so much for the guys that do the vast majority of the posting. But more so for the guys that read what's written here, but seldom post. The semi silent majority so to speak.
Your build, on the other hand, just flat needs a bigger blower. Not sure how you're going to deal with positive manifold pressure along with a 13.5/1 mechanical comp ratio though. You need way more than pump gas and meth.
I think a TVS2300 fits a huge amount of builds on this forum. Not so much for the guys that do the vast majority of the posting. But more so for the guys that read what's written here, but seldom post. The semi silent majority so to speak.
Your build, on the other hand, just flat needs a bigger blower. Not sure how you're going to deal with positive manifold pressure along with a 13.5/1 mechanical comp ratio though. You need way more than pump gas and meth.
That's my point, It's probably not something I would do at this point. Just wonder if anyone else had done it.
Keep in mind those Chevrolet Performance instructions aren't specific to installing that belt drive system in a Corvette. They aren't going to say anything about power steering lines, hoses, etc.
I have talked to the techs who do ls9 swaps and lsa swaps on g8, ctsv, zl1 cars.
They will install a ls9 blower on an lsa car for 6kish..
That includes labor, custom plenum, and the cost of the blower.
How is that possible if the blower itself is 6k???????
You wouldn't believe how cheap the lsa swap is with take off parts. And it makes over 700rwhp through an auto.
The kit you keep referring to comes with tons of crap you don't need or would rebuy on an all out build.
The LSA blowers sell for less than the LS9 parts..... that's for sure. Here's one for sale on ebay for $1900 -- but notice it's a bare blower base. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-2014-Camaro-ZL1-LSA-Supercharger-New-Revision-New-OEM-GM-19303635-/311028545431?_trksid=p2054897.l4275
Looks just like the LS9 2300 blower that sells for $2600. Noticing a pattern here? It says "shipped as shown" -- meaning no lid, sensors, intercoolers, etc. It's a blower "tub" with a pulley.
Parts catalog pictures need to be accurate, as that's what dealerships and technicians rely on. Once in a while they aren't super clear, but this one is. It's very obvious that it doesn't include the lid assembly or anything else that bolts onto the blower.
Like I said before, the only thing I can see you not needing from the $6700 LS9 blower "kit" is the throttle body (you'd probably want something bigger) and the injectors (would need larger as well). You're simply going to need everything else. Whether you buy it up front or buy it later, it's all the same.
If you can get this done using all new parts for $6000, I'll be the first to say congratulations.
Finally found the picture I was looking for. #512 is what you're looking at for under three grand.....the lid is another $2000.
The intercooler bricks are $600. See how many other parts there are?
Finally found the picture I was looking for. #512 is what you're looking at for under three grand.....the lid is another $2000.
The intercooler bricks are $600. See how many other parts there are?
Order the part number. Open the box, show us what is inside.
Order the part number. Open the box, show us what is inside.
I already have a very nice TVS2300 based blower. No need. I think you should do that and post the pics. I won't be spending a dime on that thing, as I already know what I'll get when I open the box.
Out of curiosity, what exactly do you think the differences are between part number 12625144 ($2678) and part number 19244103 ($6783) ?
Honestly, if that eBay listing and this parts diagram aren't going to change your mind, nothing will. I've been trying to help you, but am now done.
I already have a very nice TVS2300 based blower. No need. I think you should do that and post the pics. I won't be spending a dime on that thing, as I already know what I'll get when I open the box.
Out of curiosity, what exactly do you think the differences are between part number 12625144 ($2678) and part number 19244103 ($6783) ?
Honestly, if that eBay listing and this parts diagram aren't going to change your mind, nothing will. I've been trying to help you, but am now done.
No you are mistaken on what you need and what comes with the kits and part numbers.
The guy is being nice and giving you all the correct information and you keep telling him he se wrong.Keep building your n/a motor and keep dreaming you re going to get a zr1 blower set up for $2600!Some people.
The guy is being nice and giving you all the correct information and you keep telling him he se wrong.Keep building your n/a motor and keep dreaming you re going to get a zr1 blower set up for $2600!Some people.
I don't think anyone understands the point. You don't have to buy the kit. You don't need everything the kit comes with if you were going to make a lot of power.
You could buy the blower and go a million different ways with the rest of the parts..
No one said you could have a 2500 dollar dollar blower kit.
My thoughts were it's right in line with any other blower setup, but obviously a much better foundation if you can make 900 or 1000hp like some guys have..
Why buy the kit and not use a chunk of the parts??
This wasn't something I would do to my car. But I think it's a cool idea and wondered if anyone had tried it.
And even at 10k dollars it would have been cheaper than the NA motor I or most guys build.
And probably not more than most guys spend on all out blower builds
I have a ZR1 and its modded and getting another redunculous round of mods and if I had my option I wouldn't do the ZR1 blower and would go with a massive whipple and spin it slower as not to build heat.
I have a ZR1 and its modded and getting another redunculous round of mods and if I had my option I wouldn't do the ZR1 blower and would go with a massive whipple and spin it slower as not to build heat.
That would be cool, but don't see a lot of big whipple builds. And I don't think anyone has a belt situation as well figured out as they do on the zr1..
That would be cool, but don't see a lot of big whipple builds. And I don't think anyone has a belt situation as well figured out as they do on the zr1..
Gkzr1 and I are the ones that figured out how to run a gates belt and it solved like 90% of our belt slip problems. No one does big Whipple builds because when their motors are built for that level it's cheaper to get bigger power from centris and turbos.
Gkzr1 and I are the ones that figured out how to run a gates belt and it solved like 90% of our belt slip problems. No one does big Whipple builds because when their motors are built for that level it's cheaper to get bigger power from centris and turbos.
Centri with a zr1 belt would be a cool setup to see. One of you guys needs to figure that out next. Lol
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