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Old 09-01-2014, 10:55 AM
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Had a driveline failure at the track Saturday night. Loud bang and then it would just coast. Problem seems to be ahead of the diff and I'm leaning toward a guibo failure as I've never been inside the torque tube. I'll know today.


If it is a guibo what should I replace it with? Poly? ZR? I don't want solid.
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Just from a bit of research it looks like DSS 12mm poly couplers.
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Clutch or no clutch will it roll?
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Clutch or no clutch will it roll?


It won't roll. Put it in gear and let out the clutch and it doesn't move and I can hear a "clacking" sound with the clutch out that goes away when the pedal is pressed in.
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I would do the DSS poly couplers. I just recently rebuilt my TT with those and the RPM bearing kit along with a DSS 3.5" Alum shaft.
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DSS 3.5" Aluminum Shaft and DSS 12mm Couplers in mine. Good luck with everything, and that snap ring at the back of the torque tube can be a PITA!!
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Last time I thought it was the guibos it was the Trans..
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LOL funny you should say that. It was the output shaft. Going 6060.
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LOL funny you should say that. It was the output shaft. Going 6060.
That sux Bill!

I popped a G Force mainshaft in my MN12 Trans when I still had stick Trans at the dragstrip..

TR6060 should hold a lot better...but the drag strip WILL find the weakest link...

Race cars > Dyno queens
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Originally Posted by GAMEOVR
DSS 3.5" Aluminum Shaft and DSS 12mm Couplers in mine. Good luck with everything, and that snap ring at the back of the torque tube can be a PITA!!
snap ring is no problem at all with the correct tool. RPM Poly couplers are the way to go.................no problems since installing them.
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Originally Posted by GAMEOVR
DSS 3.5" Aluminum Shaft and DSS 12mm Couplers in mine. Good luck with everything, and that snap ring at the back of the torque tube can be a PITA!!
Same here. Snap ring is a bitch.

3.5" DSS alum with poly guibos. Matt@FSP seems to have the best pricing on DSS stuff.
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Bill, from the urban dictionary:

A nerd. A highly educated person (technology) with impaired social skills.



Proto makes a great set of snap ring pliers that will pull the snap ring out in less than 10 seconds.

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Pulling it out was cake, putting it back in took some effort. My snap ring pliers just didn't want to work on one that big and strong. Kept popping off. I did it, but took a few tries.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Same here. Snap ring is a bitch.

3.5" DSS alum with poly guibos. Matt@FSP seems to have the best pricing on DSS stuff.
Thanks Unreal!

The 3.5" DSS alum shaft with poly guibos is great way to go. We do a lot of the poly guibos by themselves too, but you are making some steam on your build especially with the twins there.

DSS also has a nice carbon solution that does not require guibos also.
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At what point do the guibos and shaft normally become a problem? I'm getting some vibration from that area and wondering how bad it could be.
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Originally Posted by ajrothm

TR6060 should hold a lot better...but the drag strip WILL find the weakest link...

Race cars > Dyno queens
The 6060 feels like butter compared to the T56.
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Originally Posted by Mike Farris
At what point do the guibos and shaft normally become a problem? I'm getting some vibration from that area and wondering how bad it could be.
Hard to say.. I have had stock cars toss guibos before, and I've had 800+ rwhp cars hold together... Really no good way to check besides listening for vibration while on dyno, besides pulling it apart. You'll know when you undo the torque tube and 2lbs of rubber dust comes out that it's time to replace!
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Originally Posted by 5 Liter Eater
The 6060 feels like butter compared to the T56.
And it will eliminate your ridiculously quick 1-2 shift at the track with your gearing. 60ft time should improve too with an extended clutch slip and longer first gear.
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Yea I think the gearing should help a lot in the 1/4 too. Although I can't really slip the DYAD or it hates life.

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