Any downside to upgrading to 8 rib from the beginning ?
#1
Le Mans Master
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Any downside to upgrading to 8 rib from the beginning ?
ECS 1500
Meth
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On a grand sport a6. I had a 2008 with same mods except for the novi 2200 head unit. The guy I sold the car to loved it but said once in a while on a really hot day he would get some belt slippage. I know eventually I plan to forge the LS3 and probably swap the A6 out for a built 4L65 so any reason not to just upgrade to the 8 rib from the start? Or is that not even possible since until I do those upgrades I'm only looking to make about 600rwhp? Please advise f/I experts
Meth
Longtubes
On a grand sport a6. I had a 2008 with same mods except for the novi 2200 head unit. The guy I sold the car to loved it but said once in a while on a really hot day he would get some belt slippage. I know eventually I plan to forge the LS3 and probably swap the A6 out for a built 4L65 so any reason not to just upgrade to the 8 rib from the start? Or is that not even possible since until I do those upgrades I'm only looking to make about 600rwhp? Please advise f/I experts
#2
Melting Slicks
ECS 1500
Meth
Longtubes
On a grand sport a6. I had a 2008 with same mods except for the novi 2200 head unit. The guy I sold the car to loved it but said once in a while on a really hot day he would get some belt slippage. I know eventually I plan to forge the LS3 and probably swap the A6 out for a built 4L65 so any reason not to just upgrade to the 8 rib from the start? Or is that not even possible since until I do those upgrades I'm only looking to make about 600rwhp? Please advise f/I experts
Meth
Longtubes
On a grand sport a6. I had a 2008 with same mods except for the novi 2200 head unit. The guy I sold the car to loved it but said once in a while on a really hot day he would get some belt slippage. I know eventually I plan to forge the LS3 and probably swap the A6 out for a built 4L65 so any reason not to just upgrade to the 8 rib from the start? Or is that not even possible since until I do those upgrades I'm only looking to make about 600rwhp? Please advise f/I experts
#3
Le Mans Master
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Oh awesome, very glad to hear that. How much extra is the 8 rib upgrade on initial install?
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Looks like A&A sells a conversion kit for $1100. Not sure about ECS's cost. Also, may be cheaper if you never get the 6 rib to begin with.. hopefully someone else knows more than me
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#9
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I did 8 rib up front, didn't need it, was a waste of money. Then added a flip drive so 1/2 the 8 rib stuff I bought was useless. Then did a 10 rib.
For 600rwhp I wouldn't touch it. When you upgrade the motor just do a full 10 rib/cog/DD setup. Anything in between is just a compromise and you may end up swapping more crap later.
Do an OD 10 rib IW balancer even if you run the 8 rib. No reason to buy balancers 3-4 times like I did. Went from 6 rib to 8 rib, to 8 rib od, to 10 rib OD. Complete waste of money.
For 600rwhp I wouldn't touch it. When you upgrade the motor just do a full 10 rib/cog/DD setup. Anything in between is just a compromise and you may end up swapping more crap later.
Do an OD 10 rib IW balancer even if you run the 8 rib. No reason to buy balancers 3-4 times like I did. Went from 6 rib to 8 rib, to 8 rib od, to 10 rib OD. Complete waste of money.
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#12
Le Mans Master
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I did 8 rib up front, didn't need it, was a waste of money. Then added a flip drive so 1/2 the 8 rib stuff I bought was useless. Then did a 10 rib.
For 600rwhp I wouldn't touch it. When you upgrade the motor just do a full 10 rib/cog/DD setup. Anything in between is just a compromise and you may end up swapping more crap later.
Do an OD 10 rib IW balancer even if you run the 8 rib. No reason to buy balancers 3-4 times like I did. Went from 6 rib to 8 rib, to 8 rib od, to 10 rib OD. Complete waste of money.
For 600rwhp I wouldn't touch it. When you upgrade the motor just do a full 10 rib/cog/DD setup. Anything in between is just a compromise and you may end up swapping more crap later.
Do an OD 10 rib IW balancer even if you run the 8 rib. No reason to buy balancers 3-4 times like I did. Went from 6 rib to 8 rib, to 8 rib od, to 10 rib OD. Complete waste of money.
#14
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Ok so the end goal and set up would be
novi 1500
8 rib with direct/flip drive
meth
longtube
forge LS3
do A6 to 4L65 swap
ecs fuel system
Pulley car to make about 700-750rwhp
ENJOY!!
I know it's nothing compared to most builds on this site but it's right for me.
novi 1500
8 rib with direct/flip drive
meth
longtube
forge LS3
do A6 to 4L65 swap
ecs fuel system
Pulley car to make about 700-750rwhp
ENJOY!!
I know it's nothing compared to most builds on this site but it's right for me.
#15
I made 937whp on an 8 rib with direct drive, 8 rib will easily handle your goal
#16
Le Mans Master
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#17
Le Mans Master
Downside is belt changes are harder on the side of the road. Other than that, it's not a bad idea. A 6 rib with a flip/direct drive will support 850-900rwhp, more than the 1500 will usually make.
#18
Le Mans Master
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Oh you meant all I will need for my goal is the 8 rib set up. I think from reading some old post Doug from ECS seems to feel it will be fine with the 8 rib. I trust that guy completely. Great tuner and he puts up with Chris all day so patience of a saint I will simply upgrade to the 8 rib from the start and if in the future we had any problems or slippage issues im confident that ECS would have a good solution. Thanks for all the advice guys
#19
Le Mans Master
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So seems for my goal its 6 rib with flip drive or 8 rib from the begining. II think I will go 6 rib with the flip drive and I should be good to go. So when they do my install Ill just ask them to order and install the cartek flip drive for my 6 rib set up then. Thanks guys !
Last edited by thegame; 09-20-2014 at 10:29 AM.
#20
Team Owner
I would do full 8 rib over a 6 rib/DD. If you do the DD I would only do the cogged DD, then you have to buy the balancer, so if you do that, only difference is buying a $90 blower pulley to do 8 rib on the blower too.