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Old 12-18-2014, 01:04 PM
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Ordered the black version. Should be here tomorrow. Picked up timing cover gasket/seal during lunch also
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Steering rack is out. That thing was w bitch. Balancer bolt is out. Head unit is still on. Pulled piping from HU to IC but left head unit on. Good news is I can fix the routing of a few hoses and lines now that I have decent access

Can't find my puller so I'm off to buy one. Will be tomorrow before I finish getting balancer off

Feeling better about getting it back on the road this weekend!

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Old 12-18-2014, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
Steering rack is out. That thing was w bitch. Balancer bolt is out. Head unit is still on. Pulled piping from HU to IC but left head unit on. Good news is I can fix the routing of a few hoses and lines now that I have decent access

Can't find my puller so I'm off to buy one. Will be tomorrow before I finish getting balancer off

Feeling better about getting it back on the road this weekend!

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I want to buy you a beer. I'm lazzy sitting home waiting for a tool to get the HB bolt out.
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I want to buy you a beer. I'm lazzy sitting home waiting for a tool to get the HB bolt out.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:43 AM
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One thing I forgot to mention is the alignment of the timing cover. For whatever reason the new hb may throw this out of specs. When I replaced the cam the method I used was to leave the cover bolts loose and install the hb. That way the cover was somewhat centered. It didn't leak until I replaced the ud hb unit with the stock sized one.
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I want to buy you a beer. I'm lazzy sitting home waiting for a tool to get the HB bolt out.
Just curious, what tool are you using to get it out? I ended up just using a breaker bar and a few feet of cast iron pipe. My parking brake was strong enough to hold the engine still (surprisingly). Put it in 6th gear and went at it (obviously different story for auto)

Originally Posted by Pitufina
One thing I forgot to mention is the alignment of the timing cover. For whatever reason the new hb may throw this out of specs. When I replaced the cam the method I used was to leave the cover bolts loose and install the hb. That way the cover was somewhat centered. It didn't leak until I replaced the ud hb unit with the stock sized one.
Very good to know, thanks. I'll probably use that method as well.

One question--how did you get the balancer back on? I've seen all sorts of contraptions from long threaded rods to purpose built tools. I've also read that if you heat it up first it'll slide on a lot easier, so I'll probably try to do that regardless

I'm going to try to find some threaded rod the right size during lunch and also planning on heating the balancer up to make it a little

Also, does anyone have any suggestions on something I can use to clean up power steering fluid that got on the head unit? Normally I'd just use brake cleaner, but not sure if that will hurt the black coating on the SC.

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I ordered the tool that God in the starter hole and locks flywheel in place.
My heads and exhaust are off so the starter was 3 min to remove.
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Originally Posted by Pitufina
One thing I forgot to mention is the alignment of the timing cover. For whatever reason the new hb may throw this out of specs. When I replaced the cam the method I used was to leave the cover bolts loose and install the hb. That way the cover was somewhat centered. It didn't leak until I replaced the ud hb unit with the stock sized one.
I was reading more about this and it looks like there's an install tool that makes alignment easy, but probably more of an engine builder tool than for the average guy changing out a damper in the driveway

Guess I shouldn't have bothered trying to work around the head unit... it has to come off anyways to get the water pump off to get the timing cover off. Or I can try to get the timing cover seal out from the front with cover still installed. Guess I could try that, and if successful, won't have to pull the rest off. If not, then I will have to
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I was reading more about this and it looks like there's an install tool that makes alignment easy, but probably more of an engine builder tool than for the average guy changing out a damper in the driveway

Guess I shouldn't have bothered trying to work around the head unit... it has to come off anyways to get the water pump off to get the timing cover off. Or I can try to get the timing cover seal out from the front with cover still installed. Guess I could try that, and if successful, won't have to pull the rest off. If not, then I will have to

You can change the seal without pulling the cover, just use a seal puller.
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You can change the seal without pulling the cover, just use a seal puller.
Thanks.. I had a dumb moment. I was thinking the front seal rode on the crank, kind of like rear seals. Since it rides on the balancer and balancer will be out of the way, that will make it a lot easier to get out without pulling the cover

So, that is the plan! Hopefully tonight I can get the seal changed/new balancer on.. then tomorrow get it back together. We'll see
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Got balancer off. Barely. Harbor freight puller was screaming for mercy. Took a heat gun to balancer for a while and it finally came off

Seal came right out

New seal went in no problem.

Made a balancer installer. Put new balancer in oven at 200* and it went on a decent little bit. Used installer and pulled it on rest of way. Seated with old bolt and pinned new balancer in new spot on the crank. Def. easier with steering rack out of the way.

Torqued new balancer bolt (holy mother of god).

Installed new AC belt

Made new hose for heater to water pump to reservoir. Much better fit now

Also figured out I had routed a radiator hose wrong which was interfering with the transmission cooler lines. Lines were previously pushing on tube from HU to IC. Got that fixed.

Couldn't get belt on 100% but got it far enough to see alignment looks awesome now

Will start on putting rack back in tomorrow. That's the biggest thing remaining.

I need food and beer. And sleep.
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Few picture. Hard to take any when working in the dark

Put barb on pressure switch. Actually ordered another with a weatherpack connector so this was kind of a waste of time
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Crank pinned. Again.
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If I can get steering rack in in the morning then rest should go quick. Should.
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No pictures, but I'm driving it now!

Sounds ridiculous already and I can't even get on it yet

Better update later
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No pictures, but I'm driving it now!

Sounds ridiculous already and I can't even get on it yet

Better update later
well post a little video for us.
I pined my crank today so I must not be to far off from being done. I will work on it tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by GeneSch
well post a little video for us. I pined my crank today so I must not be to far off from being done. I will work on it tomorrow.
That I can do!

So far so good. Still have to install injectors, bap and harness. That will have to wait until another day
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Couple of pictures. Video tomorrow

Still need to put the final "cover" over the top of radiator/IC/supercharger piping but left that for when I'm really done done

Anyways. Will post some more details later.


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Nice install an great documention!
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Originally Posted by Plaincoupe
Nice install an great documention!
Thanks! I wish I had done a little better on the documentation at the end, but it took so much longer than I had expected it to already that I just had to work. (mainly due to my balancer issue, not the kit's fault). I would strongly recommend anyone doing this to INSPECT their balancer prior to pinning the crank. If you aren't sure it's 100%, at least replace it with the one from Summit listed earlier in this thread so you don't have to worry about it.

Honestly I'm a little embarrassed by how dirty the rest of the engine is now. I promise I'll clean it over the Holidays!

Oh, AND I'll replace the shock thing that holds the hood open

Looking a little ghetto with a rusty pipe and dirty valve covers
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is your bracket/spacers anodized or powdercoated?


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