ECS with 3600 Stall??
#1
Le Mans Master
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ECS with 3600 Stall??
I've just bought an FTI 3600 stall and want to go the FI route in the near future, but I'm concerned that the added power may make the converter stall too high.
I was looking at the Heartbeat and then the Whipple kit, but since they both make big low end power, I think they would make e converter flash too high.
But now I'm thinking that I may just forget about keeping the car tame and turn it into a beast and be done with it, so I'm looking at an ECS kit (again).
I also want to change the cam in the future as well but will wait until I decide whether to go FI, so that I can spec the cam accordingly.
Your thoughts on whether I need to get the converter re-stalled would be appreciated.
I was looking at the Heartbeat and then the Whipple kit, but since they both make big low end power, I think they would make e converter flash too high.
But now I'm thinking that I may just forget about keeping the car tame and turn it into a beast and be done with it, so I'm looking at an ECS kit (again).
I also want to change the cam in the future as well but will wait until I decide whether to go FI, so that I can spec the cam accordingly.
Your thoughts on whether I need to get the converter re-stalled would be appreciated.
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We have plenty of customers running 3600 and 3800 stall convertors. It's personal preference, but from a performance stand point, that car is going to launch!
We typically see 1.3x 60' times with that combo and a 3.42 diff.
We typically see 1.3x 60' times with that combo and a 3.42 diff.
#3
Le Mans Master
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This car only gets driven on weekends anyhow (I've had it from April 2013 and I've only managed to out 2080 miles on it so far.)
I am in fact going to put either a 3.15 or 3.42 in it, which should unload the converter a bit as well.
I really like the looks of your blacked out kits. That's what I'm going to go with. I would need to tune the car via email though, since I'm overseas. I am getting an Autocal, so I would need someone who uses EFI Live. I've been emailing Ron at Vengeance, who has been very helpful. Those guys know what makes these cars run too.
What do you think about me going with a small blower cam, your standard 1500 kit, tuned without the restrictor in place? What do you think that will produce? I have Pfadt 1 3/4" headers on the car now BTW.
Thanks again for your invaluable input.
#4
Drifting
What rear wheel/tire combo can produce that 60' time (widebody GS with stock brakes-no drag spindles)?
#5
Burning Brakes
#7
Le Mans Master
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I saw that photo on FTIs website and that made me want to buy their 3600. But I decided to err on the side of caution and ordered a 3200. Then someone misread the number on the order sheet and they made me a 3600 instead. Greg offered to change it for me, but by then I decided to keep the 3600. We agreed that if it doesn't work for me he will restall it for me, which I think they do within the first year anyhow. Those guys are great.
BTW: Did you run the 3600 with an A6 or a 4spd?
#8
went 1.28 first time out with a yank single disc 3400 and 1800 rpm launch..but no suspension mods whatsover..so i think theres more in it higher rpm launch and disconnect sway bar
fti and yank both good converters
fti and yank both good converters
Last edited by blown81bu; 12-29-2014 at 11:54 PM.
#9
Le Mans Master
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Wow, that's a very impressive short time!
What mods do you have?
#10
thankyou
none on the suspension..factory magnetic ride..and a lg 15" conversion
u can find the car on facebook alot of info on the build
https://www.facebook.com/quickvertc5?ref=hl
none on the suspension..factory magnetic ride..and a lg 15" conversion
u can find the car on facebook alot of info on the build
https://www.facebook.com/quickvertc5?ref=hl
#11
Le Mans Master
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thankyou
none on the suspension..factory magnetic ride..and a lg 15" conversion
u can find the car on facebook alot of info on the build
https://www.facebook.com/quickvertc5?ref=hl
none on the suspension..factory magnetic ride..and a lg 15" conversion
u can find the car on facebook alot of info on the build
https://www.facebook.com/quickvertc5?ref=hl
So much for Corvettes not being suitable for drag racing because of its IRS. I can't think of any other stock chassis that can produce <1.3 second 60' times on a stock suspension - without the use of a trans brake, to boot!
#12
yes thats my car in the avatar. I ran the 3600 in a 4l65. We were hitting consistent 1.26 60fts on 13lbs of boost then went a 1.22 60ft on 16lbs of boost. Ive had other company converters and i wont go anywhere other than FTI!
Only suspension work that was done were single adjustable qa1s all around and lg spindles in the rear
Only suspension work that was done were single adjustable qa1s all around and lg spindles in the rear
#13
Le Mans Master
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yes thats my car in the avatar. I ran the 3600 in a 4l65. We were hitting consistent 1.26 60fts on 13lbs of boost then went a 1.22 60ft on 16lbs of boost. Ive had other company converters and i wont go anywhere other than FTI!
Only suspension work that was done were single adjustable qa1s all around and lg spindles in the rear
Only suspension work that was done were single adjustable qa1s all around and lg spindles in the rear
It seems like everyone that uses FTI stays loyal to them, which says a lot.
My only worry is that the 3600 might be a little too much converter for the 6L80, due to the steeper first gear (4.02 vs. 3.06 in the 4L65), in that, the higher stall combined with the shorter gear will make 1st gear really short, especially with a stock cam.
But then again, the lower 1st gear should load the converter less and reduce the stall somewhat too. So maybe it will work. I'll know soon enough.
#14
Burning Brakes
I put a circleD 3600ish in my camaro with a 6l80 and a healthy cam and it was a little "loosely goosey" shall we say. An on off switch under power though. Cut 1.49 60s in that car...and that's worth bragging about in the 5th gens. I won't go that big in my vette.
#15
Le Mans Master
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I finally test drove the car with the FTI 3600 and the 3.42s tonight and couldn't be more pleased. The car is an animal now and the converter is a lot tighter at low throttle input than I expected. I had a Yank Pro Truck 3000 in my Sierra Denali and that felt a lot looser than this converter, most likely because of the huge weight difference. With the low weight of the Vette and the 3.42s, it doesn't take much throttle to drive around at slow speed.
It also doesn't seem to heat the TFTs much more than the stock converter either. It runs around 174 degrees and after a number of launches and one longer blast up to about 125mph, it hit 184*, but quickly cooled back down to 175 after about 5 mins of cruising around. This is just slightly higher than with the stock converter.
But, when you go WOT, this thing screams to the limiter.The stock GY Runflats are useless in 1st and 2nd now. I'm going to have to get some Nittos just to drive it around on the street. I can't imagine how anyone can hook these things with this converter, 3.42s and an ECS kit?
It also doesn't seem to heat the TFTs much more than the stock converter either. It runs around 174 degrees and after a number of launches and one longer blast up to about 125mph, it hit 184*, but quickly cooled back down to 175 after about 5 mins of cruising around. This is just slightly higher than with the stock converter.
But, when you go WOT, this thing screams to the limiter.The stock GY Runflats are useless in 1st and 2nd now. I'm going to have to get some Nittos just to drive it around on the street. I can't imagine how anyone can hook these things with this converter, 3.42s and an ECS kit?
#16
Melting Slicks
I finally test drove the car with the FTI 3600 and the 3.42s tonight and couldn't be more pleased. The car is an animal now and the converter is a lot tighter at low throttle input than I expected. I had a Yank Pro Truck 3000 in my Sierra Denali and that felt a lot looser than this converter, most likely because of the huge weight difference. With the low weight of the Vette and the 3.42s, it doesn't take much throttle to drive around at slow speed.
It also doesn't seem to heat the TFTs much more than the stock converter either. It runs around 174 degrees and after a number of launches and one longer blast up to about 125mph, it hit 184*, but quickly cooled back down to 175 after about 5 mins of cruising around. This is just slightly higher than with the stock converter.
But, when you go WOT, this thing screams to the limiter.The stock GY Runflats are useless in 1st and 2nd now. I'm going to have to get some Nittos just to drive it around on the street. I can't imagine how anyone can hook these things with this converter, 3.42s and an ECS kit?
It also doesn't seem to heat the TFTs much more than the stock converter either. It runs around 174 degrees and after a number of launches and one longer blast up to about 125mph, it hit 184*, but quickly cooled back down to 175 after about 5 mins of cruising around. This is just slightly higher than with the stock converter.
But, when you go WOT, this thing screams to the limiter.The stock GY Runflats are useless in 1st and 2nd now. I'm going to have to get some Nittos just to drive it around on the street. I can't imagine how anyone can hook these things with this converter, 3.42s and an ECS kit?