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Old 05-29-2015, 03:00 PM
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I am also confused by cutting out front support beam?
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Much obliged, I don't have that blocking issue with A&A the whole intercooler sees air the way it is I should post pics.

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Originally Posted by mourat
Much obliged, I don't have that blocking issue with A&A the whole intercooler sees air the way it is I should post pics.
We are all familiar with A&A's setup
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Hehe, except with mine when I assembled it all I took care cutting the stock shrouding on the bottom so it covers the full intercooler and you don't see around it so it forces the air to go straight through the intercooler. My IAT's are extremely low but I think because the fins are slightly facing down as the intercooler sits on an angle, this pushes the air down after it leaves the intercooler and turbulates with the air trying to come in behind it via airdam. Either way my coolant temps aren't too bad so I'll leave it as is.















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Originally Posted by schpenxel
Didn't realize you cut out the front support beam. Similar to the way Pat G did his?

Did you end up making the side panels to box everything in like his also?
Nope, just took a saw and went to town.

Doesn't matter A&A or ECS, it isn't for more intercooler flow, but more flow to the radiator. It really opens up the front end and allows a lot more air up front.

Driving home today from work. Only 104F out. AC ice cold and tunes blasting.

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WOW! That's awesome yeah maybe one day I'll open mine up when I get a new Z06 front end

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Nope, just took a saw and went to town.

Doesn't matter A&A or ECS, it isn't for more intercooler flow, but more flow to the radiator. It really opens up the front end and allows a lot more air up front.

Driving home today from work. Only 104F out. AC ice cold and tunes blasting.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Nope, just took a saw and went to town.

Doesn't matter A&A or ECS, it isn't for more intercooler flow, but more flow to the radiator. It really opens up the front end and allows a lot more air up front.

Driving home today from work. Only 104F out. AC ice cold and tunes blasting.
104 doesn't even count if it's in 2% humidity
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It never did much for me. Just a waste of money. The stock setup was just as cool.
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What's the lowest temps you can have the fan come on in a 06 Z? They set mine at 194 speed 198 high speed I think..
Car runs between 189 and 198. Highest temp I seen was 210 in stop and go. Cools right down as soon as I can get her up to 35MPH for 1/2 mile. 85-90 deg day.
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167* with custom 2.5 bar OS in hptuners
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What's the lowest temps you can have the fan come on in a 06 Z? They set mine at 194 speed 198 high speed I think..
Car runs between 189 and 198. Highest temp I seen was 210 in stop and go. Cools right down as soon as I can get her up to 35MPH for 1/2 mile. 85-90 deg day.
You can make it run all the time by setting the lowest cell in the fan table to whatever you want it to run at when at or under that temp

Lowest cell in the stock OS is around 190. Custom OS's change it to more like 163
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Yes, if you make is run continuously, make sure you hard wire the connector that burns up or you will have a dysfunctional fan.
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I have dewitts with a blower and my temps run about 215-224 degrees on a hot day in south florida
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I was just about to buy a Dewitt's for my ecs 2200r kit . Haven't ran the stock setup yet ,but was planning on a 160 Tstat . Motor is a lower compression 6.0 iron block in 09 vette . From the sounds of it , seems like a waste ?
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Originally Posted by booztd3
I was just about to buy a Dewitt's for my ecs 2200r kit . Haven't ran the stock setup yet ,but was planning on a 160 Tstat . Motor is a lower compression 6.0 iron block in 09 vette . From the sounds of it , seems like a waste ?
Dewitt's rad and their brushless fan kit with the new version blower friendly shroud is definetly not a waste. It lowered my temps drastically and now I can actually use my ac
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Originally Posted by mourat
My thing is, after the install the temps even with dual SPAL fans is no different than having the stock rad with a single fan staying at around 180-185 in traffic or driving around the city.
When you double the cooling capacity of the radiator you are adding insurance. With conventional insurance you may never need or use it but it is there. Lets say your house cools to 70 degrees with a two ton AC unit when it is 90 degrees outside. Then you change it out to a five ton AC unit and you still cool to 70 with 90 ambient temperature. Did you add nothing? The correct answer is no. You will only see that difference when the demand changes. If those outside temps go to 110 degrees you are going to need that bigger unit to maintain the 70 degrees inside. The same applies to the Corvette.
Many people install the radiator and say I saw no change or expected it to go to 160 or something. As stated by someone above, you can't run lower than the thermostat and the factory fans are not design to start until about 230. If you want it to run cooler, then you have to tell it to run cooler by installing a 160 stat and starting the fans at a lower setting. While this thread is not very complimentry, there are several others where people have reported a major difference. These are usually guys that live in very hot climates or push the cars hard. You are only going to see the extra when you have a demand for the extra.
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I have the 2" cut down and the dual spall fans. I saw a pretty big difference but it wasnt until I changed to distilled water and red line water wetter. When I did that I was able to see the difference between the dewitts over the stock radiator. Worth the money in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by playtoy
I have the 2" cut down and the dual spall fans. I saw a pretty big difference but it wasnt until I changed to distilled water and red line water wetter. When I did that I was able to see the difference between the dewitts over the stock radiator. Worth the money in my opinion.
You are more than likely seeing the difference between using straight water vs ethylene glycol. I read an article years ago that stated for every 1% ethylene glycol added you raise cylinder head temps 1 degree. That's 50 degrees possible with a 50/50 mix. I've always seen lower temps running straight water or water with water wetter without changing anything else.
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Dewitts radiators are 100% worth it. The thing that may not be worth it is the dual fan kit. I think the stock fan cools just as well, but stock fan isn't an option with cut down.

I should just call Dewitts and see about the 17" fan for cut down.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Dewitts radiators are 100% worth it. The thing that may not be worth it is the dual fan kit. I think the stock fan cools just as well, but stock fan isn't an option with cut down.

I should just call Dewitts and see about the 17" fan for cut down.
Nick, it would be easy enough for you to modify the shroud they made me work with your cut down rad. I'm sure they can find a way to mate the brushless fan to the cut down. I didn't look into it because I'm fine running the ecs dongle


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