Gates Belts - k060891 or k060895 - no Heavy Duty Green???
06-17-2015, 07:12 PM
#21
Team Owner
Can always take a 10 rib belt and cut 2 off, I can't add 2 to a 8 rib 
06-17-2015, 08:27 PM
#22
Le Mans Master
06-17-2015, 09:28 PM
#23
Team Owner
As for how many have setups like this, who knows, but the people like me and winter that are pushing them are the ones that need the good belts.
07-16-2015, 05:06 PM
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St. Jude Donor '15
So, whatever happened with this?
07-16-2015, 05:18 PM
#25
8 rib here!
08-07-2015, 03:59 PM
#27
They need to hurry that **** up! 
09-17-2015, 04:42 PM
#28
Yes we do lol!
UPDATE:
As I mentioned earlier, we are currently transitioning our Racing Blue line of serpentine belts over to a completely new line; RPM. RPM belts have a stronger construction than either the Fleet Runner or the Racing Blue belts and are designed with supercharged applications as the main focus. This transition has created a backlog of products but these have not been forgotten!
Gates wants to keep the green Fleet Runner belts as a Heavy Duty only line. Since those sizes don't have any HD applications such as MACK, Freightliner etc. we are unable to build a green Fleet Runner belt. Given how awesome the RPM line is, no HD Fleet Runner belt is a moot point.
I have personally set up these for production with a new pending release date of Q1, maybe sooner. I will be sure to post updates here as soon as I have them.
These belts will be worth the wait!
Chad
UPDATE:
As I mentioned earlier, we are currently transitioning our Racing Blue line of serpentine belts over to a completely new line; RPM. RPM belts have a stronger construction than either the Fleet Runner or the Racing Blue belts and are designed with supercharged applications as the main focus. This transition has created a backlog of products but these have not been forgotten!
Gates wants to keep the green Fleet Runner belts as a Heavy Duty only line. Since those sizes don't have any HD applications such as MACK, Freightliner etc. we are unable to build a green Fleet Runner belt. Given how awesome the RPM line is, no HD Fleet Runner belt is a moot point.
I have personally set up these for production with a new pending release date of Q1, maybe sooner. I will be sure to post updates here as soon as I have them.
These belts will be worth the wait!
Chad
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09-17-2015, 04:48 PM
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St. Jude Donor '15
Can you give us an idea what sizes you'll be making? And what's the best way to order one since it's going to be a new product?
I just want a belt that isn't black
I just want a belt that isn't black
09-17-2015, 05:13 PM
#30
Yes we do lol!
UPDATE:
As I mentioned earlier, we are currently transitioning our Racing Blue line of serpentine belts over to a completely new line; RPM. RPM belts have a stronger construction than either the Fleet Runner or the Racing Blue belts and are designed with supercharged applications as the main focus. This transition has created a backlog of products but these have not been forgotten!
Gates wants to keep the green Fleet Runner belts as a Heavy Duty only line. Since those sizes don't have any HD applications such as MACK, Freightliner etc. we are unable to build a green Fleet Runner belt. Given how awesome the RPM line is, no HD Fleet Runner belt is a moot point.
I have personally set up these for production with a new pending release date of Q1, maybe sooner. I will be sure to post updates here as soon as I have them.
These belts will be worth the wait!
Chad
UPDATE:
As I mentioned earlier, we are currently transitioning our Racing Blue line of serpentine belts over to a completely new line; RPM. RPM belts have a stronger construction than either the Fleet Runner or the Racing Blue belts and are designed with supercharged applications as the main focus. This transition has created a backlog of products but these have not been forgotten!
Gates wants to keep the green Fleet Runner belts as a Heavy Duty only line. Since those sizes don't have any HD applications such as MACK, Freightliner etc. we are unable to build a green Fleet Runner belt. Given how awesome the RPM line is, no HD Fleet Runner belt is a moot point.
I have personally set up these for production with a new pending release date of Q1, maybe sooner. I will be sure to post updates here as soon as I have them.
These belts will be worth the wait!
Chad
09-17-2015, 05:46 PM
#31
The K060895 which is a 6 rib 89.56" effective length and the K060891 which is a 6 rib 89.13" E.L.
Since these belts are going to be made to order I can set up any size you guys need or want. To order them, you can go to your local parts store. It may be a month for the belt to come in but we will build it. If you go to one of your local Vette shops, they might order a drum to stock themselves, that is completely up to them.
Due to the fact that the RPM is completely different as opposed to a superficial update on the Racing belt we decided to ditch the blue color altogether. The black doesn't look as cool but the RPM line is better in every conceivable way.
This is such a niche product with low volume so we are trying to eliminate excess product and get you guys the belts while they still have that new belt smell
Chad
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09-17-2015, 05:52 PM
#32
Awesome maybe FSP can order like 3 drums we all know imma need it
09-17-2015, 07:56 PM
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St. Jude Donor '15
The K060895 which is a 6 rib 89.56" effective length and the K060891 which is a 6 rib 89.13" E.L.
Since these belts are going to be made to order I can set up any size you guys need or want. To order them, you can go to your local parts store. It may be a month for the belt to come in but we will build it. If you go to one of your local Vette shops, they might order a drum to stock themselves, that is completely up to them.
Due to the fact that the RPM is completely different as opposed to a superficial update on the Racing belt we decided to ditch the blue color altogether. The black doesn't look as cool but the RPM line is better in every conceivable way.
This is such a niche product with low volume so we are trying to eliminate excess product and get you guys the belts while they still have that new belt smell
Chad
Since these belts are going to be made to order I can set up any size you guys need or want. To order them, you can go to your local parts store. It may be a month for the belt to come in but we will build it. If you go to one of your local Vette shops, they might order a drum to stock themselves, that is completely up to them.
Due to the fact that the RPM is completely different as opposed to a superficial update on the Racing belt we decided to ditch the blue color altogether. The black doesn't look as cool but the RPM line is better in every conceivable way.
This is such a niche product with low volume so we are trying to eliminate excess product and get you guys the belts while they still have that new belt smell
Chad
09-21-2015, 12:35 PM
#34
The K060895 which is a 6 rib 89.56" effective length and the K060891 which is a 6 rib 89.13" E.L.
Since these belts are going to be made to order I can set up any size you guys need or want. To order them, you can go to your local parts store. It may be a month for the belt to come in but we will build it. If you go to one of your local Vette shops, they might order a drum to stock themselves, that is completely up to them.
Due to the fact that the RPM is completely different as opposed to a superficial update on the Racing belt we decided to ditch the blue color altogether. The black doesn't look as cool but the RPM line is better in every conceivable way.
This is such a niche product with low volume so we are trying to eliminate excess product and get you guys the belts while they still have that new belt smell
Chad
Since these belts are going to be made to order I can set up any size you guys need or want. To order them, you can go to your local parts store. It may be a month for the belt to come in but we will build it. If you go to one of your local Vette shops, they might order a drum to stock themselves, that is completely up to them.
Due to the fact that the RPM is completely different as opposed to a superficial update on the Racing belt we decided to ditch the blue color altogether. The black doesn't look as cool but the RPM line is better in every conceivable way.
This is such a niche product with low volume so we are trying to eliminate excess product and get you guys the belts while they still have that new belt smell
Chad
Please provide an update and also give me an example of HD Green load strength specifications vs Racing Blue Line/ RPM.. I would like to know when it would potentially snap. Been having a lot of gates belts snap in my supercharger application and this information would help tremendously. Also, R&D load tests etc/ comparisons..
A few more questions..
Also, add to that when these belts stretch what is that indicative of? Should the user be worried the belt has stretched too much? Should the belt be longer in order to reduce stretching? My assumption is the more the belt stretches the weaker it becomes and I would try to avoid that obviously so I don't have broken belts all the time. PC Carbon has a formula however I couldn't find a similar formula for HD belts or the Racing Performance Blue belts.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...03073922,d.dmo
Also, why not a predator belt? They seem to fit my bill, thanks in advance! "Specifically designed for aggressive applications, this extra heavy-duty belt construction provides extraordinary high impact strength, capacity, and wear resistance."
http://www.gates.com/products/indust...owerband-belts
09-21-2015, 01:09 PM
#35
Team Owner
If your breaking belts, fix the issue, don't band aid it. A stronger belt isn't a solution to your problem.
09-21-2015, 01:15 PM
#36
Gates,
Also, do you have blue line or racing line in the following part#s
060478, 060365, and 080550.
Also, do you have blue line or racing line in the following part#s
060478, 060365, and 080550.
09-21-2015, 01:57 PM
#37
09-21-2015, 02:30 PM
#38
Please provide an update and also give me an example of HD Green load strength specifications vs Racing Blue Line/ RPM.. I would like to know when it would potentially snap. Been having a lot of gates belts snap in my supercharger application and this information would help tremendously. Also, R&D load tests etc/ comparisons..
Unfortunately the engineering information is under lock and key. Gates invests heavily in R&D and can't have the information getting into the hands of a competitor.
There are construction differences between the HD FleetRunner and the RPM. Whereas the FleetRunner belts are HD and designed for long haul trucks, the RPM line is specifically designed for supercharger applications. We have sales guys on the ground as well as researchers in the office who are determining which supercharger applications to offer. We are looking at both OE supercharged cars as well as aftermarket chargers on popular applications.
A few more questions..
Also, add to that when these belts stretch what is that indicative of? Should the user be worried the belt has stretched too much? Should the belt be longer in order to reduce stretching? My assumption is the more the belt stretches the weaker it becomes and I would try to avoid that obviously so I don't have broken belts all the time. PC Carbon has a formula however I couldn't find a similar formula for HD belts or the Racing Performance Blue belts.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...03073922,d.dmo
Belt stretch is indicative of excess heat. Excess heat is generated by lack of tension among other things. Going to a longer belt will exacerbate the problem. If you were not using the correct length belt for your application (too long) this could very well be why you are snapping belts. Belts also need to be handled properly, no creasing of the belt as the internal cord is damaged and decreases the strength of the belt.
Also, why not a predator belt? They seem to fit my bill, thanks in advance! "Specifically designed for aggressive applications, this extra heavy-duty belt construction provides extraordinary high impact strength, capacity, and wear resistance."
http://www.gates.com/products/indust...owerband-belts
Predator belts are a trade name specific to our industrial product line. We are not releasing Predator automotive belts for the same reason we are not releasing FleetRunner belts for passenger car/light truck applications. Gates wants to have clear and concise messages for our products.
The entire RPM line of belts is going to have an Aramid cord with dual layers of adhesion gum. What this means is that it can handle high rpm, high heat and high torque applications.
Unfortunately the engineering information is under lock and key. Gates invests heavily in R&D and can't have the information getting into the hands of a competitor.
There are construction differences between the HD FleetRunner and the RPM. Whereas the FleetRunner belts are HD and designed for long haul trucks, the RPM line is specifically designed for supercharger applications. We have sales guys on the ground as well as researchers in the office who are determining which supercharger applications to offer. We are looking at both OE supercharged cars as well as aftermarket chargers on popular applications.
A few more questions..
Also, add to that when these belts stretch what is that indicative of? Should the user be worried the belt has stretched too much? Should the belt be longer in order to reduce stretching? My assumption is the more the belt stretches the weaker it becomes and I would try to avoid that obviously so I don't have broken belts all the time. PC Carbon has a formula however I couldn't find a similar formula for HD belts or the Racing Performance Blue belts.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...03073922,d.dmo
Belt stretch is indicative of excess heat. Excess heat is generated by lack of tension among other things. Going to a longer belt will exacerbate the problem. If you were not using the correct length belt for your application (too long) this could very well be why you are snapping belts. Belts also need to be handled properly, no creasing of the belt as the internal cord is damaged and decreases the strength of the belt.
Also, why not a predator belt? They seem to fit my bill, thanks in advance! "Specifically designed for aggressive applications, this extra heavy-duty belt construction provides extraordinary high impact strength, capacity, and wear resistance."
http://www.gates.com/products/indust...owerband-belts
Predator belts are a trade name specific to our industrial product line. We are not releasing Predator automotive belts for the same reason we are not releasing FleetRunner belts for passenger car/light truck applications. Gates wants to have clear and concise messages for our products.
The entire RPM line of belts is going to have an Aramid cord with dual layers of adhesion gum. What this means is that it can handle high rpm, high heat and high torque applications.
09-21-2015, 03:14 PM
#39
Please provide an update and also give me an example of HD Green load strength specifications vs Racing Blue Line/ RPM.. I would like to know when it would potentially snap. Been having a lot of gates belts snap in my supercharger application and this information would help tremendously. Also, R&D load tests etc/ comparisons..
Unfortunately the engineering information is under lock and key. Gates invests heavily in R&D and can't have the information getting into the hands of a competitor.
There are construction differences between the HD FleetRunner and the RPM. Whereas the FleetRunner belts are HD and designed for long haul trucks, the RPM line is specifically designed for supercharger applications. We have sales guys on the ground as well as researchers in the office who are determining which supercharger applications to offer. We are looking at both OE supercharged cars as well as aftermarket chargers on popular applications.
A few more questions..
Also, add to that when these belts stretch what is that indicative of? Should the user be worried the belt has stretched too much? Should the belt be longer in order to reduce stretching? My assumption is the more the belt stretches the weaker it becomes and I would try to avoid that obviously so I don't have broken belts all the time. PC Carbon has a formula however I couldn't find a similar formula for HD belts or the Racing Performance Blue belts.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...03073922,d.dmo
Belt stretch is indicative of excess heat. Excess heat is generated by lack of tension among other things. Going to a longer belt will exacerbate the problem. If you were not using the correct length belt for your application (too long) this could very well be why you are snapping belts. Belts also need to be handled properly, no creasing of the belt as the internal cord is damaged and decreases the strength of the belt.
Also, why not a predator belt? They seem to fit my bill, thanks in advance! "Specifically designed for aggressive applications, this extra heavy-duty belt construction provides extraordinary high impact strength, capacity, and wear resistance."
http://www.gates.com/products/indust...owerband-belts
Predator belts are a trade name specific to our industrial product line. We are not releasing Predator automotive belts for the same reason we are not releasing FleetRunner belts for passenger car/light truck applications. Gates wants to have clear and concise messages for our products.
The entire RPM line of belts is going to have an Aramid cord with dual layers of adhesion gum. What this means is that it can handle high rpm, high heat and high torque applications.
Unfortunately the engineering information is under lock and key. Gates invests heavily in R&D and can't have the information getting into the hands of a competitor.
There are construction differences between the HD FleetRunner and the RPM. Whereas the FleetRunner belts are HD and designed for long haul trucks, the RPM line is specifically designed for supercharger applications. We have sales guys on the ground as well as researchers in the office who are determining which supercharger applications to offer. We are looking at both OE supercharged cars as well as aftermarket chargers on popular applications.
A few more questions..
Also, add to that when these belts stretch what is that indicative of? Should the user be worried the belt has stretched too much? Should the belt be longer in order to reduce stretching? My assumption is the more the belt stretches the weaker it becomes and I would try to avoid that obviously so I don't have broken belts all the time. PC Carbon has a formula however I couldn't find a similar formula for HD belts or the Racing Performance Blue belts.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...03073922,d.dmo
Belt stretch is indicative of excess heat. Excess heat is generated by lack of tension among other things. Going to a longer belt will exacerbate the problem. If you were not using the correct length belt for your application (too long) this could very well be why you are snapping belts. Belts also need to be handled properly, no creasing of the belt as the internal cord is damaged and decreases the strength of the belt.
Also, why not a predator belt? They seem to fit my bill, thanks in advance! "Specifically designed for aggressive applications, this extra heavy-duty belt construction provides extraordinary high impact strength, capacity, and wear resistance."
http://www.gates.com/products/indust...owerband-belts
Predator belts are a trade name specific to our industrial product line. We are not releasing Predator automotive belts for the same reason we are not releasing FleetRunner belts for passenger car/light truck applications. Gates wants to have clear and concise messages for our products.
The entire RPM line of belts is going to have an Aramid cord with dual layers of adhesion gum. What this means is that it can handle high rpm, high heat and high torque applications.
09-21-2015, 03:23 PM
#40
Just to clarify, the blue Racing Belt line is going away. It will be replaced with the RPM line which are black belts.