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Old 07-05-2015, 10:08 AM
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looking to up grade the stock pump with out a return line.. but want a stronger then stock pump.. Is this something that can be done?
And if so what pump?

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Goal is 750rwhp.
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Originally Posted by UmX
looking to up grade the stock pump with out a return line.. but want a stronger then stock pump.. Is this something that can be done?
And if so what pump?

thanks

Goal is 750rwhp.
There are a few options you have

1. Use a boost a pump and keep the stock pump. You'll need a methonal kit to get to 750rwhp reliably. A racetronix fuel pump harness is mandatory IMO

2. Add an external secondary fuel pump system like the ECS stage 1 kit. The pump will only come on under boost.

3. Do a Fore Innovations intank dual or triple hanger.

There are pros and cons to each set up.

Option:
1. Easiest to install and the most cost effective but it support less HP than the other two options. It will put more stress on the stock fuel pump when under boost.

2. An external secondary fuel pump is the next step. I chose the ECS stage 1 kit. It doesn't add any part you don't need but it does require you to drill a hole in the driver side gas tank. It sounds way more scary than it is. The bosch 044 pump supplied with the kit will support a good deal more HP than option 1.

3. The fore innovations kits are top notch but you do pay for it. You choose a dual or triple pump hanger that goes inside the tank. The fore system can be custom tailored to your exact needs. This option requires you to drop both fuel tanks to install making installed cost quite a bit higher than the other two options but it will support more HP than the other two options.

My opinion on which to get... If you just want to stay at 750rwhp I'd suggest option 2. It's relatively easy to install and will support your hp. However is you need to do a clutch upgrade or need to drop the fuel tanks for any reason I'd do the fore setup. I'd recommend building your fuel system with your future plans in mind.
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I will be shooting meth.. What about z06 pump and a boost a pump with meth think that would be good to go ?

Originally Posted by Ultrasport05
There are a few options you have

1. Use a boost a pump and keep the stock pump. You'll need a methonal kit to get to 750rwhp reliably. A racetronix fuel pump harness is mandatory IMO

2. Add an external secondary fuel pump system like the ECS stage 1 kit. The pump will only come on under boost.

3. Do a Fore Innovations intank dual or triple hanger.

There are pros and cons to each set up.

Option:
1. Easiest to install and the most cost effective but it support less HP than the other two options. It will put more stress on the stock fuel pump when under boost.

2. An external secondary fuel pump is the next step. I chose the ECS stage 1 kit. It doesn't add any part you don't need but it does require you to drill a hole in the driver side gas tank. It sounds way more scary than it is. The bosch 044 pump supplied with the kit will support a good deal more HP than option 1.

3. The fore innovations kits are top notch but you do pay for it. You choose a dual or triple pump hanger that goes inside the tank. The fore system can be custom tailored to your exact needs. This option requires you to drop both fuel tanks to install making installed cost quite a bit higher than the other two options but it will support more HP than the other two options.

My opinion on which to get... If you just want to stay at 750rwhp I'd suggest option 2. It's relatively easy to install and will support your hp. However is you need to do a clutch upgrade or need to drop the fuel tanks for any reason I'd do the fore setup. I'd recommend building your fuel system with your future plans in mind.
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750 will be really pushing it and very meth dependent. I wouldn't do it, but if you want to risk your motor, go for it.

You can swap in a single walbro 450, but if you are going through the hassle of dropping the tank might as well do something better. Fuel system isn't a place to cheap out.
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better then the 450 walbro?


Originally Posted by Unreal
750 will be really pushing it and very meth dependent. I wouldn't do it, but if you want to risk your motor, go for it.

You can swap in a single walbro 450, but if you are going through the hassle of dropping the tank might as well do something better. Fuel system isn't a place to cheap out.
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I would not risk using a BAP on an OEM pump to reach 750 whp. Bite the bullet and invest in a proper fuel system...once you get to 750 whp, you'll want 800.
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something like this

Amazon.com: Walbro TIA485-2 450 LPH Fuel Pump Kit: Automotive Amazon.com: Walbro TIA485-2 450 LPH Fuel Pump Kit: Automotive
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Originally Posted by Silver Bullet C6
I would not risk using a BAP on an OEM pump to reach 750 whp. Bite the bullet and invest in a proper fuel system...once you get to 750 whp, you'll want 800.
are you talking c6 oem or oem z06 pump
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I ran a Z06 pump and BAP to 780 rwhp. It worked while I waited for my fuel system but being that meth dependant isn't smart. I added the ECS stage 1 after. Simple install and it works fine.
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Originally Posted by realcanuk
I ran a Z06 pump and BAP to 780 rwhp. It worked while I waited for my fuel system but being that meth dependant isn't smart. I added the ECS stage 1 after. Simple install and it works fine.
Same here ^ but I went with a Fore kit. Gonna need another headunit also cause the one you have isn't getting to 750rwhp.
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What's the headunit?
Originally Posted by Detoxx03
Same here ^ but I went with a Fore kit. Gonna need another headunit also cause the one you have isn't getting to 750rwhp.
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Ahh vortec claims 775 out of it. .
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Originally Posted by UmX
Ahh vortec claims 775 out of it. .
That's crank hp not rwhp.
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Yep, at the crank being spun to max. You can maybe eerk out 710-725 at the wheels. Need a T/Ti/Ysi or even a D1+ for 750+.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Yep, at the crank being spun to max. You can maybe eerk out 710-725 at the wheels. Need a T/Ti/Ysi or even a D1+ for 750+.
well that is disappointing.. lol
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It will only cost you around $1800-2000 to upgrade. No big deal.

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I've got a new C6 Z06 fuel pump module, 100% VP M1 meth, Racetronix harness both main and intermediate, and a Kenne Bell boost a pump and I'm shooting for 700 rwhp max to be safe.

Not sure why people do the ECS or A&A kits since it says they're only good to 750rwhp per the websites. You can make that with a boost a pump as noted above. I had an A&A fuel kit and sold it in favor of the Kenne Bell and not drilling a hole in my tank.
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The external pumps get you a solid 150-200rwhp more.

You can squeeze what you want, but your FP maybe dropping, and it isn't the safest/best way.
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Originally Posted by djfury05
I've got a new C6 Z06 fuel pump module, 100% VP M1 meth, Racetronix harness both main and intermediate, and a Kenne Bell boost a pump and I'm shooting for 700 rwhp max to be safe.

Not sure why people do the ECS or A&A kits since it says they're only good to 750rwhp per the websites. You can make that with a boost a pump as noted above. I had an A&A fuel kit and sold it in favor of the Kenne Bell and not drilling a hole in my tank.
whats the racetronix harness do? and is it mandatory ?

Just got a brand new z06 pump..so gonna pop that in with my boost a bump.. and i guess should for the 700ish range. and i am shooting meth from the alkycontrol kit.


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