Which Turbo Kit to Buy
#21
Team Owner
Played with plenty, seen plenty. Performance, reliability, power output, lag, etc are all unacceptable to me. Seen way too many issues, and never seen one perform well. It would be a step back from what you have now.
#22
Drifting
Which Turbo Kit to Buy
Originally Posted by NYOverlord
Why not? Are there any specific reasons you think STS kits are junk? I'm just trying to figure out what's the drawbacks of this kit compared to a custom rear mount turbo kit. I really want to do a rear mounted turbo.
#23
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St. Jude Donor '15
I thought STS went out of business?
#24
Team Owner
Much like Pfadt, they came back sadly.
#26
Pro
Thread Starter
The original owner bought the company back when the previous owners had to sell it off in bankruptcy court. The original (and now current owner) Rick Squires has been in contact with me. Priced me out an upgraded kit utilizing 2.0 inch diameter pipes instead of the standard 1.75 that comes standard on the STS kit, upgraded injectors and upgrading to 67mm Comp oil-less turbos for about $11,250. Came out to around $12,500 including thermal coating pipes, turbine housing jackets, 3 level electronic boost controller and shipping.
Thinking that's a good price if the kit is as good as TTIX or APS.
I really don't want to go blower again. Been there, done that. I like how turbocharged vehicles drive more than supercharged-especially since its a manual tranny and I hate how on my car the refs are dragged down especially under 2,500 RPM. I feel the blower dragging down the revs and it's not as responsive as it was when it was N/A. Since turbo cars don't even engage the turbo before a certain point, I figure in the parking lot or driveway or whatever, the car will drive like N/A and return the rev-happy nature of the car.
Thinking that's a good price if the kit is as good as TTIX or APS.
I really don't want to go blower again. Been there, done that. I like how turbocharged vehicles drive more than supercharged-especially since its a manual tranny and I hate how on my car the refs are dragged down especially under 2,500 RPM. I feel the blower dragging down the revs and it's not as responsive as it was when it was N/A. Since turbo cars don't even engage the turbo before a certain point, I figure in the parking lot or driveway or whatever, the car will drive like N/A and return the rev-happy nature of the car.
#27
The original owner bought the company back when the previous owners had to sell it off in bankruptcy court. The original (and now current owner) Rick Squires has been in contact with me. Priced me out an upgraded kit utilizing 2.0 inch diameter pipes instead of the standard 1.75 that comes standard on the STS kit, upgraded injectors and upgrading to 67mm Comp oil-less turbos for about $11,250. Came out to around $12,500 including thermal coating pipes, turbine housing jackets, 3 level electronic boost controller and shipping.
Thinking that's a good price if the kit is as good as TTIX or APS.
I really don't want to go blower again. Been there, done that. I like how turbocharged vehicles drive more than supercharged-especially since its a manual tranny and I hate how on my car the refs are dragged down especially under 2,500 RPM. I feel the blower dragging down the revs and it's not as responsive as it was when it was N/A. Since turbo cars don't even engage the turbo before a certain point, I figure in the parking lot or driveway or whatever, the car will drive like N/A and return the rev-happy nature of the car.
Thinking that's a good price if the kit is as good as TTIX or APS.
I really don't want to go blower again. Been there, done that. I like how turbocharged vehicles drive more than supercharged-especially since its a manual tranny and I hate how on my car the refs are dragged down especially under 2,500 RPM. I feel the blower dragging down the revs and it's not as responsive as it was when it was N/A. Since turbo cars don't even engage the turbo before a certain point, I figure in the parking lot or driveway or whatever, the car will drive like N/A and return the rev-happy nature of the car.
#28
No regrets but if i could do it again id do the APS TT..
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...urbo-kits.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...urbo-kits.html
#29
Pro
Thread Starter
No regrets but if i could do it again id do the APS TT..
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...urbo-kits.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...urbo-kits.html
#30
Former Vendor
I'm not sure you fully understand what you're getting into here. It may be best to do a bit more research before you pull the trigger on anything.
Turbos don't spin themselves, they need energy. They get it in two forms, heat and pressure. By mounting the turbos all the way at the rear of the car you loose both. This equates out to a loss in efficiency (power) as well as a loss in spool time. Compound this issue with an increase in IC piping, for an even longer spool time. To combat this they've decreased the IC piping to 1.75" (now 2" for you) to decrease the overall volume; which in turn now provides an overall restriction on the system overall. 900+hp through a couple 2" is doable, but the longer you make those pipes, the more restrictive they become.....
CK
Turbos don't spin themselves, they need energy. They get it in two forms, heat and pressure. By mounting the turbos all the way at the rear of the car you loose both. This equates out to a loss in efficiency (power) as well as a loss in spool time. Compound this issue with an increase in IC piping, for an even longer spool time. To combat this they've decreased the IC piping to 1.75" (now 2" for you) to decrease the overall volume; which in turn now provides an overall restriction on the system overall. 900+hp through a couple 2" is doable, but the longer you make those pipes, the more restrictive they become.....
CK
#32
Former Vendor
#33
Drifting
#38
Team Owner
Packaging and ease of install are two major ones. Still haven't seen a front mount turbo setup I would put on my personal car and I'm 100% all for turbos and don't like rear mounts, but they do have some advantages.
#39
Former Vendor
....it's like still using dialup...
CK
#40
Le Mans Master
FWIW my TTIX kit doesn't hit full boost til just below 4500ish. Having said that, all the rear mount dyno sheet's I've seen look like centri blower graphs whereas mine you could rest your beer on.
Last edited by 5 Liter Eater; 09-17-2015 at 02:13 PM.