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Old 03-16-2016, 08:53 AM
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Default single nozzle vs dual nozzle alky control

hey guys I was wondering if its worth it for me to upgrade my alky system from a single m15 nozzle to a dual. at what point is this sufficient to do? I have a heads/ cam/ exhaust/ bolt on / eforce supercharged Z06 . I should make around the 650 rwhp range and have my meth kit installed and have not had it retuned yet. was wondering if I should get a dual nozzle kit and would it be worth it for me?
Old 03-16-2016, 09:09 AM
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Dual is too much for that setup.. stick with single.
Old 03-16-2016, 09:11 AM
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how have you been buddy? thanks for the input
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Big single is sufficient
Old 03-16-2016, 11:00 AM
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Definitely single. Julio can recommend. Single worked for me at 850whp. Can always add a nozzle but if you start with too much it will be difficult to calibrate.
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I prefer single almost always. I run a single M15 nozzle at 850whp
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<850, single.

Way too many people are over mething their setups.
Old 03-16-2016, 01:20 PM
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<850, single.

Way too many people are over mething their setups.

Which also causes uneven cylinder distribution, we were able to really see this on our cars with EGT sensors. 300* difference front to back on a 1000rwhp car. A lot of meth doesn't like to turn 180* into the front cylinders!
Old 03-16-2016, 01:26 PM
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So you were seeing higher temps on the front cylinders?
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So you were seeing higher temps on the front cylinders?
Correct, switched to individual cylinder and they equaled themselves to within 100*.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Correct, switched to individual cylinder and they equaled themselves to within 100*.
Did you notice it to be worse on any specific intakes?
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Originally Posted by lt1z
Did you notice it to be worse on any specific intakes?
Good question, but on the other hand, this is probably with aftermarket ECU and with that kind of setup, hardly anyone is bothering with a stock intake manifold anymore.

I hope I'm wrong, since I would also like to know the distribution issues with stock manifold!
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Originally Posted by Pekka_Perkeles
Good question, but on the other hand, this is probably with aftermarket ECU and with that kind of setup, hardly anyone is bothering with a stock intake manifold anymore.

I hope I'm wrong, since I would also like to know the distribution issues with stock manifold!
I would say it is due more to the front TB design of most intakes people would run on a corvette. Going to direct port meth and running an ECM with individual cylinder fuel control will of course allow fine tuning.

Most here are running a Fast, LS3, LS7 intake etc with single or dual nozzle meth being injected before the TB.
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Originally Posted by lt1z
I would say it is due more to the front TB design of most intakes people would run on a corvette. Most here are running a Fast, LS3, LS7 intake etc with single or dual nozzle meth being injected before the TB.
Yes, I agree. This is exactly what I meant. Sorry for being vague.
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I'm sure doug can chime in but I believe the setup Doug was measuring EGTs for each cylinder had an ls7 intake. I could be wrong but when I asked about this too I believe he said they only run dual M10 tips on their meth kits now and not any bigger due to this dynamic.

if anyone has any data on other intake manifolds though I'd love to see it. I'd imagine some of the carb style intakes are probably far better for cylinder distribution where everything enters at the top but I could be way off.

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Originally Posted by neverstop
I'm sure doug can chime in but I believe the setup Doug was measuring EGTs for each cylinder had an ls7 intake. I could be wrong but when I asked about this too I believe he said they only run dual M10 tips on their meth kits now and not any bigger due to this dynamic.

if anyone has any data on other intake manifolds though I'd love to see it. I'd imagine some of the carb style intakes are probably far better for cylinder distribution where everything enters at the top but I could be way off.

Correct, LS7 and a FAST LS7 is what I have back to back data on.
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So is one nozzle enough for a tuner to tune either meth dependent or not?

I am shooting for 700-800 and my tuner will us the meth to supplement. Would one m15 nozzle work for this?

Mybad realized I brought a 7 month old thread back.

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Originally Posted by FeArZ
So is one nozzle enough for a tuner to tune either meth dependent or not?

I am shooting for 700-800 and my tuner will us the meth to supplement. Would one m15 nozzle work for this?

Mybad realized I brought a 7 month old thread back.
Fearz...if you dont mind can you show me how you have your nozzle set up? Also if you are running straight meth or mix? Thanks

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