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Old 03-28-2016, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
On E85? I was thinking yours were maxed before that for some reason
Yea on e85. These injectors can be ran at crazy high base pressure. I'd personally rather not push them like that but it can and has been done. I'll be going id1700s when I sell my kit.
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Easy rule of thumb that seems to work is CC=RWHP for e85. 850cc will make 850rwhp. 1000cc=1000rwhp. etc.

Assuming you have enough pump. I think that is a lot of peoples problems. If fuel pressure drops off, then all bets are off. If you can hold 60-80psi, then no problems. A lot of people 1/2 *** a fuel system, so they make up for in oversized injectors and ramp them up to make up for dropping fuel pressure.
Gotcha. For some reason I was thinking 1rwhp per cc on gasoline, so would need about 30% more on E85 obviously. I'm even more overkill on injectors than I thought then.

You're probably right.. that's a lot of fuel to move at 60-80psi

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Yea on e85. These injectors can be ran at crazy high base pressure. I'd personally rather not push them like that but it can and has been done. I'll be going id1700s when I sell my kit.
I saw where ID1000's are good to over 100psi of fuel pressure Crazy.

Speaking of which.. I wonder when ID is going to release their brushless fuel pump. I saw something on facebook about it a few weeks ago

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Old 03-28-2016, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
Gotcha. For some reason I was thinking 1rwhp per cc on gasoline, so would need about 30% more on E85 obviously. I'm even more overkill on injectors than I thought then.

You're probably right.. that's a lot of fuel to move at 60-80psi



I saw where ID1000's are good to over 100psi of fuel pressure Crazy.

Speaking of which.. I wonder when ID is going to release their brushless fuel pump. I saw something on facebook about it a few weeks ago
I saw something about that close to a year ago then haven't heard anything since you just mentioned it. Wonder what they're gonna flow and cost? Since I'm going fuel cell I'll be needing new pumps, etc
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Yeah, I'm sure it won't be cheap, probably comes with a controller. Seems like I saw some flow #'s somewhere and they were pretty ridiculous

There's no telling.. seems like Paul Yaw is always posting about something new. Suspension parts, fuel pumps, bosch ECU, spark plug w/cylinder pressure sensor, etc. but so far no new products that I know of.

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Originally Posted by schpenxel
Yeah, I'm sure it won't be cheap, probably comes with a controller. Seems like I saw some flow #'s somewhere and they were pretty ridiculous

There's no telling.. seems like Paul Yaw is always posting about something new. Suspension parts, fuel pumps, bosch ECU, spark plug w/cylinder pressure sensor, etc. but so far no new products that I know of.
I saw they mentioned an X series injector too
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Oh yeah I remember something about that

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Figure it this way, 43psi to 60psi is almost a 30% increase, so just setting the base FP up would make the difference between gas and e85.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Figure it this way, 43psi to 60psi is almost a 30% increase, so just setting the base FP up would make the difference between gas and e85.
No it's not 1:1 like that. A 1000 cc injector @ 43.5# flows 1155 cc @ 58#.


http://rceng.com / technical notes/sizing link

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My bad. Either way you can get a lot of extra flow with pressure.
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Where's a good place to pickup the ID 1300 injectors? Also wondering how I can tell if both my existing fuel pumps will handle e85? Guess I also need to know if the fuel lines can run it? Thanks.
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Where's a good place to pickup the ID 1300 injectors? Also wondering how I can tell if both my existing fuel pumps will handle e85? Guess I also need to know if the fuel lines can run it? Thanks.
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Was reading somewhere that 1300's are back ordered forever. I guess someone must have some in stock.


Oh. And ID has a flow calculator on the site that has been dead on every setup I tested it with.

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@schpenxel I can't find you message but you were saying they had some problems causing them to go on back order, it was actually the 1700s https://m.facebook.com/notes/paul-ya...6328148185338/
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That issue has all been taken care of. They kept it hush for a while.
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Originally Posted by Dude_man
That issue has all been taken care of. They kept it hush for a while.
They only had 36 total failures, it's not like it was a fast intake
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Originally Posted by vette4mud
@schpenxel I can't find you message but you were saying they had some problems causing them to go on back order, it was actually the 1700s https://m.facebook.com/notes/paul-ya...6328148185338/
Yeah, that's why I deleted it.. I thought it was 1300's but it was 1700's so I figured it better to just delete the wrong info

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They only had 36 total failures, it's not like it was a fast intake
Sorry what was that you said mud butt?
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Originally Posted by Dude_man
Sorry what was that you said mud butt?
I said it wasn't that big of a deal, I wouldn't expect swamp people to understand

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Originally Posted by vette4mud
I said it wasn't that big of a deal, I wouldn't expect swamp people to understand
Isn't that your backyard? I thought I saw you on an episode wrestling a gator naked


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