Going with ECS. . . Supporting mods beforehand?
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That's pretty common. Avoids the work of moving the IAT to after meth and gets rid of the MAF as far as the ECM is concerned.
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You do not have to bring the MAF back into play to pass inspection! If anyone else is in this same predicament PM me and I'll explain how to do it. I can get a car with two rods hanging out of the block, with an 800 lift cam that had the battery disconnected while waiting on the inspection line to pass no problem. With all the codes properly functioning btw, not just shut off. Well maybe except CA because they are just well... CA, and I don't know their deal there very well.
My opinion is that FI should be tuned closed loop speed density, in my experience it's the better way to tune a boosted car. The factory ECM can read boost, allow it to!
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St. Jude Donor '15
True. I wasn't sure so I put it back in--got another one to pass a few weeks later without the MAF, so now I know.
I can do the same
Flash in the parking lot, pass inspection, flash again on the other side of the parking lot, lol
It's even better when the inspection guy tells you not to bother putting it through inspection if it's been flashed lately
I can do the same
Flash in the parking lot, pass inspection, flash again on the other side of the parking lot, lol
It's even better when the inspection guy tells you not to bother putting it through inspection if it's been flashed lately
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Thanks for the response guys!
Should.I go with a full exhaust, or just longtube headers for now?
Also, out of curiousty. . I've read that the A6 is good for around 650rwhp and I'm not sure about the stock bottom end of the LS2. . . can anyone congirm/deny these?
Should.I go with a full exhaust, or just longtube headers for now?
Also, out of curiousty. . I've read that the A6 is good for around 650rwhp and I'm not sure about the stock bottom end of the LS2. . . can anyone congirm/deny these?
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Stock exhaust is fine for just about any power level.
650 is a solid number to stop at.
650 is a solid number to stop at.
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I figure I'll be gold with 550-600
But I'm leaving some.power on the table. . . may as well.get it.
At the moment I'm.looming at the ECS 1500, an ATI damper, meth kit and maybe a 2800 stall
But I'm leaving some.power on the table. . . may as well.get it.
At the moment I'm.looming at the ECS 1500, an ATI damper, meth kit and maybe a 2800 stall
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#33
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After all the issues i encounter with the ECS kit, I would go A&A if i had to start it over again. Nothing against ECS though they give a great service, but the kit itself could be better. First who ever install ECS tensionner should get longer bolts!! They hang by 3 threads!! Then BOV placement makes SD tune mandatory, intercooler setup could be better, but it doesn't require a new rad! I had to change manual tensionner idler because of bad bearings right new out of the box, they sent a new one right away!! But after 1000KM its on its way out!!! Ill take it out and replace the bearings with REAL bearings, need to take the blower out each time!! ! Couplers aren't the greatest either, but other than its awesome once everythings is sorted out!!
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Once again i can't stress this out, Matt at FSP and Christ at ECS were great with a lot of tech support! I wish they do a kit update like A&A just did!!
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Had all of those issues too. Bolts that go through front timing cover barely engage any threads--much less than the stock bolts. Should use longer bolts.
Also stripped the threads on the clamps on mine. Started cleaning the threads before I take them off now, new ones have been fine. Not sure if it was my issue or cheap clamps.
Had surging with MAF tune, SD is fine
Fried bearings in manual tensioner pulley
And I think that's it.
Overall small issues in the big picture but things I had to address too nonetheless
A&A's new parts sure do look nice, can't argue with you there
Also stripped the threads on the clamps on mine. Started cleaning the threads before I take them off now, new ones have been fine. Not sure if it was my issue or cheap clamps.
Had surging with MAF tune, SD is fine
Fried bearings in manual tensioner pulley
And I think that's it.
Overall small issues in the big picture but things I had to address too nonetheless
A&A's new parts sure do look nice, can't argue with you there
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After all the issues i encounter with the ECS kit, I would go A&A if i had to start it over again. Nothing against ECS though they give a great service, but the kit itself could be better. First who ever install ECS tensionner should get longer bolts!! They hang by 3 threads!! Then BOV placement makes SD tune mandatory, intercooler setup could be better, but it doesn't require a new rad! I had to change manual tensionner idler because of bad bearings right new out of the box, they sent a new one right away!! But after 1000KM its on its way out!!! Ill take it out and replace the bearings with REAL bearings, need to take the blower out each time!! ! Couplers aren't the greatest either, but other than its awesome once everythings is sorted out!!
Zero issues with the bolts. Zero issues with BOV placement. Ran mine for years without a SD tune, and no issues. All kits can have a bad idler out of the box, they don't make those, just resell them, so that could happen to any kit. FMIC is the best IMO of any of the big 3 kits. Some people might not like the way it looks, but it cools damn well and doesn't block the whole radiator, and lets fresh air to the filter. Its a great design and uses a high quality bar/plate core. Couplers are perfectly fine.
All the kits should ditch t-bolts and go with worm clamps, but so many people are convinced t-bolts are better and buy kits off marketing crap instead of reality. I have worm clamps on my setup and tossed all the t-bolts.
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#39
As an update,
I've picked up a slightly used ECS kit and got it in the other day. The kit(I was told) has around 1k mikes on it and everything seems to be in relatively good condition. The only thing I don't currently have are injectors for the install.
The kit came with a can as well, but I don't know what exactly the specs mean. I've got a few questions, if any of you wouldn't mind.
Firstly, here are the cam specs, will this work well with my supercharger and LS2?
SDPC CC54-TT4-11 - LS BLOWER CAMSHAFT 224/236 .581/.602 116
The ultimate goal of this build is to have a fun weekend car that I can daily if needed. I don't mind paying more for a reliable tune/competent installer.
Will there be any other hardware needed to install the cam, or have them do while they're in there?
Also, injectors. I need injectors. I'm having trouble deciding on a size, I almost considered massive ones and e85 just for the sake of saying it can run e85, but I'm sure I'd need a larger fuel pump or dual pumps. Im not sure what else would be needed to be able to do either e85 or 93.
Would a stall really be needed or no?
Can anybody recommend a shop around Birmingham/Huntsvilla Alabama? I'm willing to drive a fee hours to drop it off and pick it up once its done.
As a refresher, this is all with a bone stock ls2/4l80e
Thank you guts for your input so far!!
I've picked up a slightly used ECS kit and got it in the other day. The kit(I was told) has around 1k mikes on it and everything seems to be in relatively good condition. The only thing I don't currently have are injectors for the install.
The kit came with a can as well, but I don't know what exactly the specs mean. I've got a few questions, if any of you wouldn't mind.
Firstly, here are the cam specs, will this work well with my supercharger and LS2?
SDPC CC54-TT4-11 - LS BLOWER CAMSHAFT 224/236 .581/.602 116
The ultimate goal of this build is to have a fun weekend car that I can daily if needed. I don't mind paying more for a reliable tune/competent installer.
Will there be any other hardware needed to install the cam, or have them do while they're in there?
Also, injectors. I need injectors. I'm having trouble deciding on a size, I almost considered massive ones and e85 just for the sake of saying it can run e85, but I'm sure I'd need a larger fuel pump or dual pumps. Im not sure what else would be needed to be able to do either e85 or 93.
Would a stall really be needed or no?
Can anybody recommend a shop around Birmingham/Huntsvilla Alabama? I'm willing to drive a fee hours to drop it off and pick it up once its done.
As a refresher, this is all with a bone stock ls2/4l80e
Thank you guts for your input so far!!
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As an update,
I've picked up a slightly used ECS kit and got it in the other day. The kit(I was told) has around 1k mikes on it and everything seems to be in relatively good condition. The only thing I don't currently have are injectors for the install.
The kit came with a can as well, but I don't know what exactly the specs mean. I've got a few questions, if any of you wouldn't mind.
Firstly, here are the cam specs, will this work well with my supercharger and LS2?
SDPC CC54-TT4-11 - LS BLOWER CAMSHAFT 224/236 .581/.602 116
The ultimate goal of this build is to have a fun weekend car that I can daily if needed. I don't mind paying more for a reliable tune/competent installer.
Will there be any other hardware needed to install the cam, or have them do while they're in there?
Also, injectors. I need injectors. I'm having trouble deciding on a size, I almost considered massive ones and e85 just for the sake of saying it can run e85, but I'm sure I'd need a larger fuel pump or dual pumps. Im not sure what else would be needed to be able to do either e85 or 93.
Would a stall really be needed or no?
Can anybody recommend a shop around Birmingham/Huntsvilla Alabama? I'm willing to drive a fee hours to drop it off and pick it up once its done.
As a refresher, this is all with a bone stock ls2/4l80e
Thank you guts for your input so far!!
I've picked up a slightly used ECS kit and got it in the other day. The kit(I was told) has around 1k mikes on it and everything seems to be in relatively good condition. The only thing I don't currently have are injectors for the install.
The kit came with a can as well, but I don't know what exactly the specs mean. I've got a few questions, if any of you wouldn't mind.
Firstly, here are the cam specs, will this work well with my supercharger and LS2?
SDPC CC54-TT4-11 - LS BLOWER CAMSHAFT 224/236 .581/.602 116
The ultimate goal of this build is to have a fun weekend car that I can daily if needed. I don't mind paying more for a reliable tune/competent installer.
Will there be any other hardware needed to install the cam, or have them do while they're in there?
Also, injectors. I need injectors. I'm having trouble deciding on a size, I almost considered massive ones and e85 just for the sake of saying it can run e85, but I'm sure I'd need a larger fuel pump or dual pumps. Im not sure what else would be needed to be able to do either e85 or 93.
Would a stall really be needed or no?
Can anybody recommend a shop around Birmingham/Huntsvilla Alabama? I'm willing to drive a fee hours to drop it off and pick it up once its done.
As a refresher, this is all with a bone stock ls2/4l80e
Thank you guts for your input so far!!
I got my injectors from FIC for like $250.. They are 108lb/hr ZR1 injectors (resized).