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Old 06-30-2016, 10:50 AM
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Hey all,

I'm looking to go with an ECS supercharger around Christmas time on my bone stock A6 LS2 Corvette. Are there any supporting mods that I should look into BEFORE the install and get a tune? Ie cam, exhaust, etc.

I'd like to daily the car and keep the power level within what a stock block can handle, only thing I'm putting in at the moment are shocks from a C7
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Hey all,

I'm looking to go with an ECS supercharger around Christmas time on my bone stock A6 LS2 Corvette. Are there any supporting mods that I should look into BEFORE the install and get a tune? Ie cam, exhaust, etc.

I'd like to daily the car and keep the power level within what a stock block can handle, only thing I'm putting in at the moment are shocks from a C7
The "go to" mods IMHO are our kit, Alky control meth injection and American Racing headers. Best bang for the buck.

You can get started with headers, let me know if you would like a price on those.

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1 7/8" headers and X-pipe, preferably cat-less if that's legal where you are (and you don't mind a slight stinky fuel smell from the exhaust).
If you're up for doing a cam, then there's plenty of reputable companies that you can get a decent cam that will add ~80hp on boost and still idle decent.
Make sure that you get a good set of injectors of sufficient size that allows you to upgrade later, with the right data for offsets etc. A set of ID1000s would probably do, unless maybe if you're going to go the E85 route?
With the A6, I would do a converter, but keep it ~2800 rpm stall speed of you want it to drive like stock, or do something like a Yank blower series 3400 if it's going to be a 1/4 mile weekend warrior setup.
You may want to start thinking about supporting mods to the cooling system. Search around on here. There's plenty of info on the ECS system. Your car will be badass no matter what you do with that system.
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Originally Posted by aarongdl
Hey all,

I'm looking to go with an ECS supercharger around Christmas time on my bone stock A6 LS2 Corvette. Are there any supporting mods that I should look into BEFORE the install and get a tune? Ie cam, exhaust, etc.

I'd like to daily the car and keep the power level within what a stock block can handle, only thing I'm putting in at the moment are shocks from a C7

Read this carefully: YOUR FIRST MOD NEEDS TO BE TIRES.

Trust me. Boost and stock tires do not get along. at. ALL. So start researching and shopping for some good sticky tires before you start adding even more power to the smoke show.
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Damper since your pulling stock one to pin crank.
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Originally Posted by Tribaltalon
Read this carefully: YOUR FIRST MOD NEEDS TO BE TIRES.

Trust me. Boost and stock tires do not get along. at. ALL. So start researching and shopping for some good sticky tires before you start adding even more power to the smoke show.
Eh.. He doesn't need something sticky like a DR for sub 600whp... NT05, RE-11s, and PSS are all going to be ok on a centri car below 600whp..which he probably won't even break.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Damper since your pulling stock one to pin crank.

This. The stock one sucks without the added stress of a SC.

Harmonic Balancer/Damper
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Eh.. He doesn't need something sticky like a DR for sub 600whp... NT05, RE-11s, and PSS are all going to be ok on a centri car below 600whp..which he probably won't even break.
Dreaming I was aiming for 550-600, I guess realistically a little over 500 to the wheels.


Why wouldn't I break 600? Is that too much for the stock block or what's holding it back?

Also, and recommendations or parts/brands to AVOID are welcome as well as far as the dampers and whatnot.

Gonna wait to pull the trigger on a nice set of wheels and tires, but will definitely look into them.

Why the American racing headers?

And ifninwere to get headers and a can spec'd for this supercharger, would it cause any type of performance loss if it were installed and tuned for a few months without the supercharger install?
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Do it all at once, much cheaper that way.
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Originally Posted by aarongdl
Dreaming I was aiming for 550-600, I guess realistically a little over 500 to the wheels.


Why wouldn't I break 600? Is that too much for the stock block or what's holding it back?

Also, and recommendations or parts/brands to AVOID are welcome as well as far as the dampers and whatnot.

Gonna wait to pull the trigger on a nice set of wheels and tires, but will definitely look into them.

Why the American racing headers?

And ifninwere to get headers and a can spec'd for this supercharger, would it cause any type of performance loss if it were installed and tuned for a few months without the supercharger install?

I have LS2 with the ECS 1500 kit and put down 750 to the wheels. On stock block/bottom end. That said I have numerous supporting mods....

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Originally Posted by Spoolin8
I have LS2 with the ECS 1500 kit and put down 750 to the wheels. On stock block/bottom end. That said I have numerous supporting mods....
Would you care to PM me your setup or give me an idea of what kind of supporting mods you did so I can get an idea of what to be looking for?

If not, I understand/
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I'd say do methanol headers and some good rear tires like maybe some r888 if you don't already have them.

much much cheaper to do it all at once. if you truly daily drive it I would either stick with stock cam or go with something small. lots of supercharged ls3 vettes at 600whp+ on stock cam though so no need to do that now necessarily and it does leave a fun step to do in the future for whenever you want that other 70whp+, which is transformative.

ECS is a great shop though, I'd just listen to them and do what they say. Have bought lots of stuff from them over the years and they've never done me wrong.
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Originally Posted by JetstreamGS
Do it all at once, much cheaper that way.

This is SO true, in all areas of modding (and even routine service!)
Do it once, do it all, do it right. Then you're done... no screwing around later, no paying (or performing, if you DIY) duplicate labor items.
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Originally Posted by aarongdl
Dreaming I was aiming for 550-600, I guess realistically a little over 500 to the wheels.


Why wouldn't I break 600? Is that too much for the stock block or what's holding it back?

Also, and recommendations or parts/brands to AVOID are welcome as well as far as the dampers and whatnot.

Gonna wait to pull the trigger on a nice set of wheels and tires, but will definitely look into them.

Why the American racing headers?

And ifninwere to get headers and a can spec'd for this supercharger, would it cause any type of performance loss if it were installed and tuned for a few months without the supercharger install?
Well I assumed low boost and it's an LS2 that you didn't sound (at least it seemed like) like you were going radical with so 600 or less seemed plausible.

Do all of your mods at one time, it's cheaper and you have to take the same parts off to do the cam swap or blower. You will need a tune either way, best to have it tuned once.

The LS2 is a fine engine.
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i WOULDN'T do cam, unless you want to go crazy. ECS 1500 meth and headers, you'll have enough to break 700whp with supporting fuel. I would negotiate with Matt from FSP or Christ at ECS, both has been great! With that said, I would negotiate my kit minus the BAP to put toward stage 1 fuel system with upgraded 85LBS injectors. And also do the harmonic!!!!!!! Mine last one month before starting to go to ****!! Sure its fun having all that stuff, but im still struggling getting the tune right, For some reasons, i think ECS have a bad design when it comes to intake, because i have all kind of surge light throttle surge issues with MAF turbulences, which is driving me freaking nut!!!
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Originally Posted by timmyZ06
i WOULDN'T do cam, unless you want to go crazy. ECS 1500 meth and headers, you'll have enough to break 700whp with supporting fuel. I would negotiate with Matt from FSP or Christ at ECS, both has been great! With that said, I would negotiate my kit minus the BAP to put toward stage 1 fuel system with upgraded 85LBS injectors. And also do the harmonic!!!!!!! Mine last one month before starting to go to ****!! Sure its fun having all that stuff, but im still struggling getting the tune right, For some reasons, i think ECS have a bad design when it comes to intake, because i have all kind of surge light throttle surge issues with MAF turbulences, which is driving me freaking nut!!!

Granted it's not the best design but it is also designed to fit over the stock radiator. A stack with a filter produces more boost and power because it produces less restriction and turbulent air...

That said, think about this logically... ECS has a design flaw because you're having issues tuning. That would mean that the thousands of us that didn't have that issue are the exceptions and your one car is the rule?

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Every single tuner says that ecs have issue with maf tunes. Sd tune is mandatory so yeah ill blame on air path issue
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Why wouldn't you want a speed density tune after throwing a blower on the vehicle?
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I agree on going full SD, might as well...

But Tim is right... several people have complained about MAF turbulence on card style MAF's with ECS's kit. Mostly from tuners who don't feel like tuning in SD..

Mine did the same thing when using the MAF. Went to SD and all is fine.

Had to reinstall MAF to pass emissions testing a few months ago and it was horrible.

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