For all those running large blowers on an ECS kit
10-05-2016, 05:50 PM
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For all those running large blowers on an ECS kit
Currently the car is sitting with JMS Racing in San Antonio for a tune. Its a ERL 427 with 6 bolt 255cc gen-x ls3 heads with a Novi 2200X/10 rib setup with E85 and dual meth injection. Keep in mind that this is a base ECS kit with the head unit and pulley changed over with a flip drive for better belt wrap. Key here is that I'm still running the base ECS kit intercooler.
My question to you guys is...how much power are you guys seeing on the dyno? Is the base ECS intercooler too restrictive and if so, what intercooler did you swap to?
My tuner is one of the best in the business and he seems to think that this intercooler is going to be too small for the larger blower thus preventing full efficiency. I've read in various places that ECS intercoolers flow enough air to make 1200hp. Now, I'm not sure if that's rwhp or bhp. Here is a quote from their site.
"The large 17 x 3.5 x 8 in core has proven to support 1200 hp, and still provides adequate airflow across the front of the car to allow your AC and cooling systems to keep the car operating as it should, without the added cost of a larger radiator and fans."
What are your thoughts? Your shared experience and advice is much appreciated.
My question to you guys is...how much power are you guys seeing on the dyno? Is the base ECS intercooler too restrictive and if so, what intercooler did you swap to?
My tuner is one of the best in the business and he seems to think that this intercooler is going to be too small for the larger blower thus preventing full efficiency. I've read in various places that ECS intercoolers flow enough air to make 1200hp. Now, I'm not sure if that's rwhp or bhp. Here is a quote from their site.
"The large 17 x 3.5 x 8 in core has proven to support 1200 hp, and still provides adequate airflow across the front of the car to allow your AC and cooling systems to keep the car operating as it should, without the added cost of a larger radiator and fans."
What are your thoughts? Your shared experience and advice is much appreciated.
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10-05-2016, 06:23 PM
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Unreal made at least 1200 with the ECS intercooler on his
10-05-2016, 06:35 PM
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I wish we could tag him. Some people on here continue to ask him for proof, but according to those asking, he hasnt provided anything. I'm not saying his car hasn't made 1200, but in this case I would like to see proof to see a realistic comparison.
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10-05-2016, 06:37 PM
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1200rwhp on base intercooler. Swapped to a bigger one and zero detectable difference.
No one has asked me for proof and I've posted videos and stuff before. I don't give a flying **** if people don't believe it. Locals were there to see. Has been to 3-4 Dyno days and always made similar power. Has no issues walking away or out trapping 1000-1050rwhp cars.
No one has asked me for proof and I've posted videos and stuff before. I don't give a flying **** if people don't believe it. Locals were there to see. Has been to 3-4 Dyno days and always made similar power. Has no issues walking away or out trapping 1000-1050rwhp cars.
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10-05-2016, 06:40 PM
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Would you mind listing mods and a pic of the dyno? Curious because my car is being tuned as we speak and he thinks the ECS cooler will be restrictive. It would be very helpful for a comparison of the two dyno charts.
10-05-2016, 06:43 PM
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1200rwhp on base intercooler. Swapped to a bigger one and zero detectable difference.
No one has asked me for proof and I've posted videos and stuff before. I don't give a flying **** if people don't believe it. Locals were there to see. Has been to 3-4 Dyno days and always made similar power. Has no issues walking away or out trapping 1000-1050rwhp cars.
No one has asked me for proof and I've posted videos and stuff before. I don't give a flying **** if people don't believe it. Locals were there to see. Has been to 3-4 Dyno days and always made similar power. Has no issues walking away or out trapping 1000-1050rwhp cars.
10-05-2016, 08:04 PM
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10-05-2016, 08:21 PM
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10-05-2016, 08:39 PM
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10-05-2016, 09:58 PM
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See what I did there!Damn straight I am. I don't see what's wrong with learning and sharing info.
10-05-2016, 10:18 PM
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That isn't what an askhole is 
10-06-2016, 09:05 AM
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I have personally ran 8.56 in a full weight car with one, a couple of other shops have surpassed that. Is that proof enough?
We do offer a bigger intercooler, but it blocks off more of the radiator so it is more then just swapping the cooler, you need to upgrade the entire cooling system.
We do offer a bigger intercooler, but it blocks off more of the radiator so it is more then just swapping the cooler, you need to upgrade the entire cooling system.
10-06-2016, 12:11 PM
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I have personally ran 8.56 in a full weight car with one, a couple of other shops have surpassed that. Is that proof enough?
We do offer a bigger intercooler, but it blocks off more of the radiator so it is more then just swapping the cooler, you need to upgrade the entire cooling system.
We do offer a bigger intercooler, but it blocks off more of the radiator so it is more then just swapping the cooler, you need to upgrade the entire cooling system.
10-07-2016, 02:08 PM
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I have a 2200r with the base ecs intercooler and my IATs are 230 at the end of a 1/4 mile pull. 8'' lower 3" upper right about 20psi no meth. Its absolutely terrible, I do a lot of highway and 1\2 mile stuff and do not want to run meth, so I will be upgrading the intercooler this winter.
10-07-2016, 03:18 PM
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I have a 2200r with the base ecs intercooler and my IATs are 230 at the end of a 1/4 mile pull. 8'' lower 3" upper right about 20psi no meth. Its absolutely terrible, I do a lot of highway and 1\2 mile stuff and do not want to run meth, so I will be upgrading the intercooler this winter.