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Old 12-02-2016, 11:25 PM
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So i just ordered a twin turbo set up(UPP), and am wondering if i need to buy anything else. Currently i have heads cam, headers, intake which most will be coming off. Im thinking of changing the cam from the katech torquer 110 to something else, Im mainly just wondering about odds and ends im over looking that i will want/need.

So any help is appreciated.
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Originally Posted by joewarner
So i just ordered a twin turbo set up(UPP), and am wondering if i need to buy anything else. Currently i have heads cam, headers, intake which most will be coming off. Im thinking of changing the cam from the katech torquer 110 to something else, Im mainly just wondering about odds and ends im over looking that i will want/need.

So any help is appreciated.
Your tuner can tune the turbos off of wastgate and still make big power but to get the most out of the twins you will need to run an aftermarket computer such as proefi(expensive). Also, what have you done for cooling mods any oil upgrades? Regarding cam, you might want a boost cam. Basically, something that holds the intake valves open longer but keeps the exhaust side normal hence building boost. Given I'm sure the 110 cam you have will work with your twins but I believe it's designed for a NA setup. I have a custom grind boost cam that I got for $420 to meet my setup and it works very well.
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Just run a boost controller and set the boost level to your hearts desire, you don't have to have a standalone ECM for that.

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Your tuner can tune the turbos off of wastgate and still make big power but to get the most out of the twins you will need to run an aftermarket computer such as proefi(expensive). Also, what have you done for cooling mods any oil upgrades? Regarding cam, you might want a boost cam. Basically, something that holds the intake valves open longer but keeps the exhaust side normal hence building boost. Given I'm sure the 110 cam you have will work with your twins but I believe it's designed for a NA setup. I have a custom grind boost cam that I got for $420 to meet my setup and it works very well.
no cooling or oil upgrades, being im stock block im not trying to go over 700whp currently. Do i need either of those for 700whp?
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No you don't need an aftermarket computer for 700rwhp
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I would leave the cam alone. No need to change it, you'll still make good power with it. You will want to re-route the oil return lines because the way they are in the puts them dangerously low. I added some heat shielding to the frame and inside of the fenders and also wrapped the hot side to keep the temps down.

Lastly, I hope your kit fits better than mine did. The drivers side piping had to be cut and re-welded in a few placing to fit correctly.
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
No you don't need an aftermarket computer for 700rwhp
+1. You can make tons of power off of just wastegate. I was just stating to maximize the potential of a turbo you would want to run something aftermarket. I've seen guy make over 1000whp on just wastegate with stock PCM.
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no cooling or oil upgrades, being im stock block im not trying to go over 700whp currently. Do i need either of those for 700whp?
I would recommend looking at upgrading your radiator fan or at least adding a shroud to it. Also, go ahead and replace or delete your fan connector as those things are almost guaranteed to melt once you adjust your fan settings.
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Just use a boost controller, no need to limit yourself to just the wastegates.
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
Just use a boost controller, no need to limit yourself to just the wastegates.
+1. Any recommendations for the OP on what kind of boost controller? EBCS I'm assuming?
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I would recommend looking at upgrading your radiator fan or at least adding a shroud to it. Also, go ahead and replace or delete your fan connector as those things are almost guaranteed to melt once you adjust your fan settings.


is it just as simple as removing and it bolts back up? or is it more complicated?
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I would leave the cam alone. No need to change it, you'll still make good power with it. You will want to re-route the oil return lines because the way they are in the puts them dangerously low. I added some heat shielding to the frame and inside of the fenders and also wrapped the hot side to keep the temps down.

Lastly, I hope your kit fits better than mine did. The drivers side piping had to be cut and re-welded in a few placing to fit correctly.


ya im hoping so too lol. I havent heard of any fitment issues like this before. Have to keep an eye out for it.

Where did you re route your oil lines?
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Wrapped them in thermo sleeve and put them above the exhaust. There's enough slack in the lines so they fit without having to make new ones.
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can you show me a picture if possible?
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I do have a few actually.

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Joe, your's is a top-mount kit, completely different that theses, so your oil lines never have to run that low to get under the frame.

ESSFO, you may still run into oil backup problems with the lines like that. You'll know if the turbo starts leaking oil and smoking out of the exhaust.

Joe, I would leave the cam, definitely leave the ECU. Look into a fuel system; either something as simple as a Kenny Bell BAP or one of our supplementary fuel systems: http://uppturbo.com/parts/upp-c6-fuel-system/

And possibly a clutch. Generally 600-650whp is where we start to see them slip, sometimes lower depending on the life they've had.

For a boost controller, I personally like the cheap/easy/manual ones; just set it and forget it. Or you can get all crazy with electronic feedback touchscreens that will talk to you.... Your call/budget....

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I have your fuel system uprade CK. And thanks for the clarity i didnt know me and the other guy were talking about 2 different set ups.

And ill look into clutches then. Thanks.

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Then really all you need too look into is going to be a clutch....and maybe a set of stickier tires!
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Originally Posted by CK@UPPCOS
Then really all you need too look into is going to be a clutch....and maybe a set of stickier tires!
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I'd recommend mostly looking at insurance parts.

If your heads are good... C5R timing chain, and upgraded oil pump, Texas Speed has a good ported pump.

Also, I'm not sure how many pounds of boost your wanting to put down. But fuel system, upgraded radiator, and possibly a little meth injection.

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So i just ordered a twin turbo set up(UPP), and am wondering if i need to buy anything else. Currently i have heads cam, headers, intake which most will be coming off. Im thinking of changing the cam from the katech torquer 110 to something else, Im mainly just wondering about odds and ends im over looking that i will want/need.

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