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Old 02-13-2017, 09:52 AM
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Coming to the end of where I want but something still need to upgraded.

Last year I was running ECS 1500 at 14psi with meth on 93 i put down 772 on a Z06 pump with a BAP.

Over the winter I have changed to a 2200 and dual nozzle meth kit.

My guess would be the pump is never going to make it with this 2200. I could try but doubt i will succeed. What dual pump set up would be go to go with say safe to 1200 range...

My other concern is the block. Its a stock alum block but its fully forged.

And my last question would be with this 2200 set up whats a good rear tire/suspension set up for traction mostly roll racing.


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What block? What setup. Either way going to be stressing it going for 1200+ on a factory aluminum block. If it is a ls9/a block, pinned, 1/2" head studs, etc it maybe ok.

1200 on 91-93 or e85-e98? 1200rwhp or crank? Either way, your looking at a triple pump setup, not a dual unless you just add a big external like ECS stage 2/3 fuel kit.

Tires/suspenion go straight to a 15" setup with adjustable shocks.

Also if you want to push the 2200 you will need a direct drive or different belt setup than you have now.

If you swap to e85 you may want to go back to a single nozzle meth.
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What block? What setup. Either way going to be stressing it going for 1200+ on a factory aluminum block. If it is a ls9/a block, pinned, 1/2" head studs, etc it maybe ok.

1200 on 91-93 or e85-e98? 1200rwhp or crank? Either way, your looking at a triple pump setup, not a dual unless you just add a big external like ECS stage 2/3 fuel kit.

Tires/suspenion go straight to a 15" setup with adjustable shocks.

Also if you want to push the 2200 you will need a direct drive or different belt setup than you have now.

If you swap to e85 you may want to go back to a single nozzle meth.
I have the stock ls2 block - That was honed. It has callies crankshaft, diamond pistons, link bar lifters, blower stage 2 cam, 9.5:1, ferreavalves, fast 102 intake.

I dont plan to go to 1200, id like to break the 1000 whp mark and thats it.. I just want extra pump for the fact knowing its there. Ill be using 93 pump gas.

The 2200 has a 3.33 pulley on it now.. By pushing the 2200 and needing direct drive. Do I need that now or if i decide to go past the 3.33 pulley.
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Fore triple pump kit setup for flex fuel/e85. We have it here in Michigan so use it. Thank me later.
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Fore triple pump kit setup for flex fuel/e85. We have it here in Michigan so use it. Thank me later.
doesnt all new lines have to ran with a return ?
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Run new feed, use original feed as return

If you have access to E85 I'd seriously consider it. Put flex fuel sensor in the return line. E85 is awesome if you have enough fuel system for it

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Originally Posted by schpenxel
Run new feed, use original feed as return

If you have access to E85 I'd seriously consider it. Put flex fuel sensor in the return line. E85 is awesome if you have enough fuel system for it
i was really trying to avoid running lines to be honest, bc idk what im doing lol

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It's not too bad, there are lots of YouTube videos that show how to make them

I think A&A and ECS have setups with pre-made lines though if you don't want to have to make them.. might look into that.

I really don't see how you'll get to 1200 without having to add some fuel lines unless you are dumping in a ton of meth. Just not going to happen. I really wouldn't want to have to depend on meth THAT much personally

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Originally Posted by schpenxel
It's not too bad, there are lots of YouTube videos that show how to make them

I think A&A and ECS have setups with pre-made lines though if you don't want to have to make them.. might look into that.

I really don't see how you'll get to 1200 without having to add some fuel lines unless you are dumping in a ton of meth. Just not going to happen. I really wouldn't want to have to depend on meth THAT much personally
Oh ya id never make it to 1200 with out it. I just ment where i am now.. seeing what i can get out of the current set up. That or just save for that http://www.foreinnovations.com/product_p/38-512.htm

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Ah ok, that makes more sense then

Yeah Fore makes some nice looking stuff
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
Ah ok, that makes more sense then

Yeah Fore makes some nice looking stuff
Id be better off doing that kit, vs dropping the tank to just put in some pumps for now.. Seeing as the gas tank in the vette is a ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHOLEEEEEEEEEEEE

if it wasnt so hard to change that stuff out id just throw 2 duals in there now.. but the labor is a so hard

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Would look at adding a different catchcan/pcv system if you start pushing it harder.

Swap upper pipe to a maf style card or SD setup.

Swap inlet to a 4" setup.

If the factory ls2 block wasn't bored, and you have enough luck, can see 1000+ without issue. Probably run into a head issue before block issue assuming tune is good.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Would look at adding a different catchcan/pcv system if you start pushing it harder.

Swap upper pipe to a maf style card or SD setup.

Swap inlet to a 4" setup.

If the factory ls2 block wasn't bored, and you have enough luck, can see 1000+ without issue. Probably run into a head issue before block issue assuming tune is good.
Yea i just have a basic catch can right know and valve covers being vented to another can. yea maf is still stock style. block wasnt bored. meaning 6 bolt heads? or just better heads. mine are just 243s ported and polished
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Just better heads. Proper setup 4 bolt heads can take 1100-1200. Stock 243s with off the shelf ARPs, probably not.

LSA/9 with 1/2 fancy ARP (the high end ones, forget the metal call out on them) and good metal gasket can hold 1k all day.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Just better heads. Proper setup 4 bolt heads can take 1100-1200. Stock 243s with off the shelf ARPs, probably not.

LSA/9 with 1/2 fancy ARP (the high end ones, forget the metal call out on them) and good metal gasket can hold 1k all day.
can those 243 with arp handle 900ish? wheel. I was looking at some trick flows at some point..
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I can't answer that. Probably if it was all setup correctly, tune is spot on.

L19 are the fancy bolts.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
I can't answer that. Probably if it was all setup correctly, tune is spot on.

L19 are the fancy bolts.
ahh gotcha

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