what to do next after A&A kit?
#1
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what to do next after A&A kit?
I've had the A&A vortec kit for about a year now and have the mod bug again.
what next?
*Headers?
*Smaller Pulley & Meth kit?
I know I need to do gears, it has 2.56's with an Auto.
Already has widebody and z06 rims
what next?
*Headers?
*Smaller Pulley & Meth kit?
I know I need to do gears, it has 2.56's with an Auto.
Already has widebody and z06 rims
#4
Team Owner
Stall and suspension
#5
If you're looking for more power, id go with meth and a pulley swap. I picked up ~60 whp going from a 3.8" to a 3.6" and from 50/50 water/meth to straight meth along with a retune. Going to the straight meth allowed for a lot more timing as well as the 50/50 mix apparently wasn't nearly as effective on my setup.
Headers will certainly add power, but I can't imagine they'd add near what meth and a pulley could do, and you'd be coming from no injection at all to meth.
I do also find it odd that you're unhappy with the gears. On regular street tires, 1st was useless and I couldn't go WOT in 2nd at any speed without significant wheelspin. I can't imagine how bad it would be with a 3.xx rear. Certainly drag radials helped a ton, but i still wouldnt want 1st any steeper tham it already is. I'm a lot more unhappy with the converter as its so tight.
Headers will certainly add power, but I can't imagine they'd add near what meth and a pulley could do, and you'd be coming from no injection at all to meth.
I do also find it odd that you're unhappy with the gears. On regular street tires, 1st was useless and I couldn't go WOT in 2nd at any speed without significant wheelspin. I can't imagine how bad it would be with a 3.xx rear. Certainly drag radials helped a ton, but i still wouldnt want 1st any steeper tham it already is. I'm a lot more unhappy with the converter as its so tight.
Last edited by bumpin96monte; 03-21-2017 at 05:08 PM.
#8
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Thread Starter
If you're looking for more power, id go with meth and a pulley swap. I picked up ~60 whp going from a 3.8" to a 3.6" and from 50/50 water/meth to straight meth along with a retune. Going to the straight meth allowed for a lot more timing as well as the 50/50 mix apparently wasn't nearly as effective on my setup.
Headers will certainly add power, but I can't imagine they'd add near what meth and a pulley could do, and you'd be coming from no injection at all to meth.
I do also find it odd that you're unhappy with the gears. On regular street tires, 1st was useless and I couldn't go WOT in 2nd at any speed without significant wheelspin. I can't imagine how bad it would be with a 3.xx rear. Certainly drag radials helped a ton, but i still wouldnt want 1st any steeper tham it already is. I'm a lot more unhappy with the converter as its so tight.
Headers will certainly add power, but I can't imagine they'd add near what meth and a pulley could do, and you'd be coming from no injection at all to meth.
I do also find it odd that you're unhappy with the gears. On regular street tires, 1st was useless and I couldn't go WOT in 2nd at any speed without significant wheelspin. I can't imagine how bad it would be with a 3.xx rear. Certainly drag radials helped a ton, but i still wouldnt want 1st any steeper tham it already is. I'm a lot more unhappy with the converter as its so tight.
I'm looking at best bang for the buck. Seems like headers will only yield ~20/30rwhp and cost roughly $2K.
Not sure what cost on pulley swap and Meth would be, but seems to have more gains.
As for Gears, my tuner told me I needed them. He said I was not seeing peak #'s because of them and my car ran the Dyno to 188mph in 4th. I also thought they would give a little more umph around town driving.
Tires are currently Bridgestone Protenza's 325/19"s on stock Z06 rims.
#9
For meth, a new kit is about $600, then a pulley and belt adds about $150, plus adjustments to your tune. Certainly you could save money buying used (especially the pulley) and you can recoup some money selling your old pulley and belt.
Headers can be done for close to that ballpark. I think I paid like $650 for obx headers plus front O2 extensions. Ideally you'll need a tune touch up too. Certainly it's easy to get a couple grand wrapped up in brand new name brand headers though. Even if the prices were the same, bang for the buck still goes to meth & pulley as it'll make more power.
As for Gears, my tuner told me I needed them. He said I was not seeing peak #'s because of them and my car ran the Dyno to 188mph in 4th. I also thought they would give a little more umph around town driving.
Tires are currently Bridgestone Protenza's 325/19"s on stock Z06 rims.
Tires are currently Bridgestone Protenza's 325/19"s on stock Z06 rims.
Last edited by bumpin96monte; 03-22-2017 at 09:58 AM.
#10
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I was looking at Kooks 1 7/8's with catted X-pipe keeping stock cat back for about $1,900, then add extended O2's. I can install myself in garage. Not sure about retune?
I haven't checked into other brands. I had Kooks on my 00 Camaro SS and loved them. fit was awesome.
I haven't checked into other brands. I had Kooks on my 00 Camaro SS and loved them. fit was awesome.
#12
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E85 is not really popular in the northeast. I wouldn't even know where to get it.
another thought is headers and a smaller pulley. With the headers reducing backpressure, a smaller pulley will probably yield the same lbs of boost? Possibly not requiring a retune?
I will definitely talk with my tuner before changing the pulley though.
another thought is headers and a smaller pulley. With the headers reducing backpressure, a smaller pulley will probably yield the same lbs of boost? Possibly not requiring a retune?
I will definitely talk with my tuner before changing the pulley though.
#13
another thought is headers and a smaller pulley.
Last edited by bumpin96monte; 03-22-2017 at 12:34 PM.
#14
Team Owner
Skip headers and do a stall. Hands down the best mod for an auto car.
#15
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Thread Starter
Didn't realize you were going to run cats. Seems like not many boosted c6s do when going to headers, so I assumed youd at least have to get the codes turned off in the pcm if nothing else to avoid a CEL. I guess you may still have to even with high flow cats. On other platforms I've dealt with it seemed to be hit or miss as to if they'd trigger a light or not.
Honestly, if the goal is a smaller pulley, meth would be far more beneficial. Same from a bang for the buck point of view, especially if you're pretty set on buying new Kooks. Even buying all new, it's only about 1/2 the price for meth + pulley/belt + retune.
Honestly, if the goal is a smaller pulley, meth would be far more beneficial. Same from a bang for the buck point of view, especially if you're pretty set on buying new Kooks. Even buying all new, it's only about 1/2 the price for meth + pulley/belt + retune.
I have never liked the drivability of cars I drove with higher stall converters.
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#16
Team Owner
What are you comparing it too? My mustang has a 4000rpm stall, and wife never noticed. Any modern car has electronic lock up, including yours. So you only feel the effect of the stall at WOT and getting on it from the line. Other than that drives like stock. Without an electronic lock up, they can suck but that is a complete non-issue on any modern car.
#19
Instructor
You don't need gears. At least you won't once you add a little HP. I used to think my gears were tall, not anymore.
I know a lot of people like meth, and I understand why, but I don't want another thing to refill constantly and worry about not spraying when I need it to the most.
A mild to moderate cam and opening up your stock exhaust will do wonders to help your engine to breath and free it up.
For me, going from just an A&A kit which was relatively tame, to adding an LS9 cam, kooks headers and Flowmaster exhaust really woke up the car and I'm almost afraid of it now. She really feels like she's holding nothing back when I step on the gas no matter what rpm, gear, or throttle position.
I just told the tuner that keeping it safe was my number one goal and not hp. She never knocked or pulled timing in Vegas 110 degree heat.
I know a lot of people like meth, and I understand why, but I don't want another thing to refill constantly and worry about not spraying when I need it to the most.
A mild to moderate cam and opening up your stock exhaust will do wonders to help your engine to breath and free it up.
For me, going from just an A&A kit which was relatively tame, to adding an LS9 cam, kooks headers and Flowmaster exhaust really woke up the car and I'm almost afraid of it now. She really feels like she's holding nothing back when I step on the gas no matter what rpm, gear, or throttle position.
I just told the tuner that keeping it safe was my number one goal and not hp. She never knocked or pulled timing in Vegas 110 degree heat.
#20
Team Owner
Because it isn't something to worry about constantly refill or worry about not spraying. Its a great performance upgrade, and octane is needed to make power.