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Old 09-06-2012, 03:56 PM
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Default Adjusting shift mph/rpm A6 with HP tuners or INTUNE

Hey guys,
I have an ECS trans tune in EFI Live format that was saved by my local tuner using HP Tuners when it was dyno tuned after installing ported fast.

Can HP tuner or Diablo Intune be used just for the purpose of adjusting the shift points eventhough the TCM was originally tuned with EFI Live & an autocal? I like everything about the EFI live tcm tune that Doug at ECS did, but I do hit the rev limiter occaisionally at the track on the 1-2, 2-3 shifts which I need to stop. Not a fan of the Autocal for tuning purposes so looking for other options. Thanks!!
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Originally Posted by brewcitygymratt
Hey guys,
I have an ECS trans tune in EFI Live format that was saved by my local tuner using HP Tuners when it was dyno tuned after installing ported fast.

Can HP tuner or Diablo Intune be used just for the purpose of adjusting the shift points eventhough the TCM was originally tuned with EFI Live & an autocal? I like everything about the EFI live tcm tune that Doug at ECS did, but I do hit the rev limiter occaisionally at the track on the 1-2, 2-3 shifts which I need to stop. Not a fan of the Autocal for tuning purposes so looking for other options. Thanks!!
Yes and HPTUNERS actually gives you access to more tables.

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Originally Posted by brewcitygymratt
Hey guys,
I have an ECS trans tune in EFI Live format that was saved by my local tuner using HP Tuners when it was dyno tuned after installing ported fast.

Can HP tuner or Diablo Intune be used just for the purpose of adjusting the shift points eventhough the TCM was originally tuned with EFI Live & an autocal? I like everything about the EFI live tcm tune that Doug at ECS did, but I do hit the rev limiter occaisionally at the track on the 1-2, 2-3 shifts which I need to stop. Not a fan of the Autocal for tuning purposes so looking for other options. Thanks!!
why not get an intune from ECS, that way they can adjust your tcm tune remotely via email
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Originally Posted by Mike@DiabloSport
why not get an intune from ECS, that way they can adjust your tcm tune remotely via email
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HP Tuners will let you change it as needed, and will give access to way more features.
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We have worked extensively with ECS, and a few other respected GM tuning shops to make sure our TCM templates contain the stuff you need to properly tune most of these TCMs. The inTune is a proven piece of hardware that will allow the user to do what he is asking, without having to understand how the TCM works, which should be a prerequisite for anyone planning to tune their TCM themselves.

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Yes and HPTUNERS actually gives you access to more tables.

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HP Tuners will let you change it as needed, and will give access to way more features.

I dont know about "way more features"? There are one or two tables available in the std versions of HP, but there are other tables in EFI that HP doesn't have so that can go either way really. If your in deep enough with either software company, you end up with all the tables in both...
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Originally Posted by Mike@DiabloSport
We have worked extensively with ECS, and a few other respected GM tuning shops to make sure our TCM templates contain the stuff you need to properly tune most of these TCMs. The inTune is a proven piece of hardware that will allow the user to do what he is asking, without having to understand how the TCM works, which should be a prerequisite for anyone planning to tune their TCM themselves.

Thanks


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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
I dont know about "way more features"? There are one or two tables available in the std versions of HP, but there are other tables in EFI that HP doesn't have so that can go either way really. If your in deep enough with either software company, you end up with all the tables in both...
I have everything HPT has available. Well over 600 tables for any A6. Not sure what you're getting at with being in good with them since everybody has access to the latest beta.

Last I heard, EFI still didn't have the shift torque factor adder. That's a big one for me.
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Originally Posted by DSteck
I have everything HPT has available. Well over 600 tables for any A6. Not sure what you're getting at with being in good with them since everybody has access to the latest beta.

Last I heard, EFI still didn't have the shift torque factor adder. That's a big one for me.
Do you know if HPT will allow you to change your part throttle paddle shifts? For example, my 3-4 will not change from about 19-20 mph even with very light throttle. As long as I'm not in paddle I can change to anything I want.

Is iTune capable of this change?
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Change it how?
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Originally Posted by DSteck
Change it how?
I can only shift to 4th above 19-20 mph in paddle. Is there a way in HPT that I can change my file so that my 3-4 will shift at a lower speed perhaps 15 mph? It's not a problem, probably more out of curosity. The 2-3 will paddle about 5 mph then a pretty long way until I can shift to 4th.
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Originally Posted by 8850
I can only shift to 4th above 19-20 mph in paddle. Is there a way in HPT that I can change my file so that my 3-4 will shift at a lower speed perhaps 15 mph? It's not a problem, probably more out of curosity. The 2-3 will paddle about 5 mph then a pretty long way until I can shift to 4th.
HPT has the "tap up" "tap down" tables as well as "safety shifts" for the paddle shifters. Keep in mind the A6 is much to complicated for its own good.
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Originally Posted by 8850
I can only shift to 4th above 19-20 mph in paddle. Is there a way in HPT that I can change my file so that my 3-4 will shift at a lower speed perhaps 15 mph? It's not a problem, probably more out of curosity. The 2-3 will paddle about 5 mph then a pretty long way until I can shift to 4th.
I can't understand why someone would want to be in 3rd gear at 5 MPH and 4th by 15??? Maybe, you think this will get you better MPG??
You will only cause engine damage by lugging the motor badly.
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I can't understand why someone would want to be in 3rd gear at 5 MPH and 4th by 15??? Maybe, you think this will get you better MPG??
You will only cause engine damage by lugging the motor badly.
It is an auto, you can't lug it. They have minimum speeds for converter lock up.
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I can't understand why someone would want to be in 3rd gear at 5 MPH and 4th by 15??? Maybe, you think this will get you better MPG??
You will only cause engine damage by lugging the motor badly.
No lug at all particularly with my 3200 stall.

I just really want to know if the adjustments can be made that I outlined above.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
I dont know about "way more features"? There are one or two tables available in the std versions of HP, but there are other tables in EFI that HP doesn't have so that can go either way really. If your in deep enough with either software company, you end up with all the tables in both...
Hey Doug, how is it going? How was Carlilse this year for you guys. Couldn't make it this year....work

I agree, both are close, especially with the latest EFILive release giving you more access to the Pattern B parameters. GM themselves made it easier with less shift time tables in 2010 1/2 and up

What I like about HPTuners is the Inertia Factor Profile tables for quick specific tweaking of shift firmness and the Shift Torque Factor for tweaking specific torque management area's without having to disable Torque Management entirely. But as you said, you can tune with both and there is always more than one way to "skin the cat" as they say.

Have a great weekend

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Originally Posted by 8850
No lug at all particularly with my 3200 stall.

I just really want to know if the adjustments can be made that I outlined above.
I have honestly never tried that because it isn't something that's ever been asked. Paddle mode sucks anyway. Lol.

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