I Don't Understand Tuning
#1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
I Don't Understand Tuning
I'm hoping someone can point me to an article explaining this tuning business to me. Based on the promotions I see, it makes no sense. Time and time again I see something like more power and better mpg. That implies that the engineers at GM are utter bozos for putting out a car which is majorly less efficient than some third party tuners can achieve. Hard for me to believe, frankly. I can see the more power part but not the more mpg and the more of both just boggles my mind into incredulity.
Now I can see re-programming the TPS to being linear. My guess is my bone stock C6 LS3 is about 1/5 throttle at the 1/2 way point. Making the throttle linear would make the car darned lively and give a sense of more power (but not mpg) and it'd also be a fraud to say that doing this result in 'more power'. So I'm assuming tuning isn't reprogramming the TPS or that's only part of it.
So exactly what does this consist of? If I threw a few hundred at a tune, what should I realistically expect? Do I need take the car to a place or can the tune be mailed (emailed?) to me and I somehow install it?
I'm sure these questions are answered somewhere for the C6. I'd greatly appreciate a link. Thanks.
Now I can see re-programming the TPS to being linear. My guess is my bone stock C6 LS3 is about 1/5 throttle at the 1/2 way point. Making the throttle linear would make the car darned lively and give a sense of more power (but not mpg) and it'd also be a fraud to say that doing this result in 'more power'. So I'm assuming tuning isn't reprogramming the TPS or that's only part of it.
So exactly what does this consist of? If I threw a few hundred at a tune, what should I realistically expect? Do I need take the car to a place or can the tune be mailed (emailed?) to me and I somehow install it?
I'm sure these questions are answered somewhere for the C6. I'd greatly appreciate a link. Thanks.
#2
Supporting Vendor
Optimizing things like timing and fueling, throttle control, and especially torque management all aide in making the car more powerful and more fun to drive. Finding a big improvement in mileage on a C6 through tuning is not something I would expect, although tuning should not negatively affect mileage as long as it's driven in a similar fashion.
We see average gains of about 20 rwhp over stock on the LS3 Vettes.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks
We see average gains of about 20 rwhp over stock on the LS3 Vettes.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks
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#3
The OEM's stock tune is a balanced combination of power, efficiency, drivability, reliability, emissions and safety.
The customer can decide to marginalize some of these areas in a quest for optimization/improvement in others thru aftermarket tuning. Simple as that.
The customer can decide to marginalize some of these areas in a quest for optimization/improvement in others thru aftermarket tuning. Simple as that.
#4
Safety Car
Simple answer is emissions and warranty! There are parameters set in a tune to protect the powertrain and emissions. For example, torque management, IAT tables, COT's enrichment, etc. Too much to list and a lot of information to learn. If you want to learn, Greg Banish has several books about tuning. They will give you a very good perspective what is involved with engine management and tuning.
Last edited by Mike's LS3; 04-04-2015 at 11:03 PM.
#5
Optimizing things like timing and fueling, throttle control, and especially torque management all aide in making the car more powerful and more fun to drive. Finding a big improvement in mileage on a C6 through tuning is not something I would expect, although tuning should not negatively affect mileage as long as it's driven in a similar fashion.
We see average gains of about 20 rwhp over stock on the LS3 Vettes.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks
We see average gains of about 20 rwhp over stock on the LS3 Vettes.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks
#6
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Ah, well, it does make sense now. Thanks to all who've answered.
I still have a warranty on my power train. Based on a few of the posts above, I'm concerned that a tune void that warranty. Will it?
I still have a warranty on my power train. Based on a few of the posts above, I'm concerned that a tune void that warranty. Will it?
#7
Melting Slicks
Yes; a tune will void the engine/powertrain warranty.
However, a dealer would be hard pressed to void the warranty on the NAV unit based on an engine tune.
However, a dealer would be hard pressed to void the warranty on the NAV unit based on an engine tune.
#9
Supporting Vendor
This does not apply to our tuning devices.
Using one of our devices to flash the pcm leaves no traces that GM can see to determine the pcm has or has not been tuned, this can not be said for all tuning options, but can indeed be said for ours.
Thanks
#10
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Sounds good Mike. If I decide to go ahead and do this I'll get a hold of you. My concern now, is I have found that once I start modding I never stop. So I'm concerned if I want to go ahead with starting to mod.
#11
Supporting Vendor