Is 6 speed auto faster than 4 speed?
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...awhile ago, I thought someone posted the specs for each - including transmission gear ratios for both.
I think the 2005 automatic had "better" (steeper) gear ratios than the 2006 6/automatic has
With that in mind and all else equal, the 2005 should out accelerate the 2006, mathematically speaking
I think the 2005 automatic had "better" (steeper) gear ratios than the 2006 6/automatic has
With that in mind and all else equal, the 2005 should out accelerate the 2006, mathematically speaking
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Just the opposite - A6 has the more aggressive overall reduction. ratios. Also listed the base MN6 ratios for comparison.
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Originally Posted by Devils Elbow
Just the opposite - A6 has the more aggressive overall reduction. ratios. Also listed the base MN6 ratios for comparison.
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Originally Posted by LS WON
So does this mean the A-4 with 315's is the faster Corvette over the 6 speed auto with 2.56 gears?
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Originally Posted by JELSIS
No, the 6 speed auto should be quicker.
The A6 has better torque multiplication than the A4 with 3.15 gears, will have more grunt off the line, and will keep the RPM in the sweet range more consistently. The A6 should be considerably quicker.
Mike
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
The A6 has better torque multiplication than the A4 with 3.15 gears, will have more grunt off the line, and will keep the RPM in the sweet range more consistently. The A6 should be considerably quicker.
Mike
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
The A6 has better torque multiplication than the A4 with 3.15 gears, will have more grunt off the line, and will keep the RPM in the sweet range more consistently. The A6 should be considerably quicker.
Mike
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Originally Posted by SHOOTER 49
If 12.9 is the et for the A6 It would not be ''considerably quicker'' as A4'S have run 12.7 and even one--ORANGE C6--as low as 12.5.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Well 12.9 is the number posted by GM/Chevrolet/Team Corvette so it really isnt fair to compare it to A4 numbers attained from private owners in the real world which I have found to be typically faster than the manufacturers claims. In other words that 12.9 A6 car might've been running 12.6s (or maybe even 13.1s) if tested in the same conditions as that A4 car running 12.7s etc.
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I always thought the A6 will be quicker than the A4 3.15 Gears. Also just do a little modification like add more HP and it will be alot quicker. I have friends telling me to get M6 but I prefer A6. Can't wait to get one!!! By the way has anyone ever upgraded their C6 to 510HP like the package from Lingenfelter, also there's an Article in Car and Driver on more information. Seems like a good package very close to Z06 performace but very expensive. The only less expensive is the 366CID for 500HP.....
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The A-4 figures and depending if its a Z-51 or the gear ratio is faster
Originally Posted by mlongo99
GM says that for the A6...
0-60 4.5
1/4 mile 12.9 @ 110
Don't have their A4 numbers, but that should give you an idea.
0-60 4.5
1/4 mile 12.9 @ 110
Don't have their A4 numbers, but that should give you an idea.
I remember these figures as there was a list for the 2005 all models of times. I will have to look for it.
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
The A6 has better torque multiplication than the A4 with 3.15 gears, will have more grunt off the line, and will keep the RPM in the sweet range more consistently. The A6 should be considerably quicker.
Mike
[PRESS RELEASE] 6 Speed Auto's
FOR RELEASE: 2005-10-26
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New Six-Speed Transmissions Begin Production At Revamped, Historic Willow Run Facility
YPSILANTI, Mich. - GM announced the start of production of a new, modular family of Hydra-Matic six-speed automatic transmissions for rear-drive applications at the upgraded Willow Run facility in Ypsilanti. The 6L80 six-speed transmission debuts in the 2006 Chevy Corvette, Cadillac STS-V and XLR-V, and several models of GM's all-new 2007 full-size SUVs.
Six-speed details
GM's new Hydra-Matic 6L80 transmission is the first of a new family of modular six-speed rear-drive transmissions. The transmissions feature two overdrive gears and a wide, 6.04:1 gear ratio spread to improve performance and fuel economy when compared with conventional four- and five-speed automatic transmissions. With two overdrive gears, engine rpm is reduced by approximately 9 percent at 60 mph - a reduction to about 1,500 rpm. Lower engine rpm can bolster fuel economy because less fuel is used. A lower-rpm cruising speed also enhances smoothness and reduces noise heard in the vehicle's cabin.
GM estimates the wide ratio spread can help cut 0-60 mph times by as much as 7 percent and enhance fuel economy by up to 4 percent.
Technically sophisticated clutch-to-clutch operation reduces complexity and packaging. It also enhances the performance feel of the transmission, as shifts feel more immediate and precise. It is a simple, less complex design that enables the six-speed transmission to be packaged in a size not much larger than a four-speed automatic.
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Originally Posted by RBYCC
[PRESS RELEASE] 6 Speed Auto's
FOR RELEASE: 2005-10-26
CONTACTS
New Six-Speed Transmissions Begin Production At Revamped, Historic Willow Run Facility
YPSILANTI, Mich. - GM announced the start of production of a new, modular family of Hydra-Matic six-speed automatic transmissions for rear-drive applications at the upgraded Willow Run facility in Ypsilanti. The 6L80 six-speed transmission debuts in the 2006 Chevy Corvette, Cadillac STS-V and XLR-V, and several models of GM's all-new 2007 full-size SUVs.
Six-speed details
GM's new Hydra-Matic 6L80 transmission is the first of a new family of modular six-speed rear-drive transmissions. The transmissions feature two overdrive gears and a wide, 6.04:1 gear ratio spread to improve performance and fuel economy when compared with conventional four- and five-speed automatic transmissions. With two overdrive gears, engine rpm is reduced by approximately 9 percent at 60 mph - a reduction to about 1,500 rpm. Lower engine rpm can bolster fuel economy because less fuel is used. A lower-rpm cruising speed also enhances smoothness and reduces noise heard in the vehicle's cabin.
GM estimates the wide ratio spread can help cut 0-60 mph times by as much as 7 percent and enhance fuel economy by up to 4 percent.
Technically sophisticated clutch-to-clutch operation reduces complexity and packaging. It also enhances the performance feel of the transmission, as shifts feel more immediate and precise. It is a simple, less complex design that enables the six-speed transmission to be packaged in a size not much larger than a four-speed automatic.
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Originally Posted by clem zahrobsky
that 7 % difference is with the 4 speed and the 2.76 rear gear not the 4 speed and the 3.15 rear gear. GM power train had the specs on their website and the 0-60 with the 6 speed auto was slower than the 0-60 with the 4 speed auto and the 3.15 rear gear but the fuel milage was better. powertrain has since taken down the post.
The chart in question also showed a very odd, what appeared to be a rolling start type, acceleration method/measure, not that it should really matter for quicker is quicker.
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503 RWHP @ 6100 RPM's
Originally Posted by v8ls2ca
I always thought the A6 will be quicker than the A4 3.15 Gears. Also just do a little modification like add more HP and it will be alot quicker. I have friends telling me to get M6 but I prefer A6. Can't wait to get one!!! By the way has anyone ever upgraded their C6 to 510HP like the package from Lingenfelter, also there's an Article in Car and Driver on more information. Seems like a good package very close to Z06 performace but very expensive. The only less expensive is the 366CID for 500HP.....
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Originally Posted by clem zahrobsky
that 7 % difference is with the 4 speed and the 2.76 rear gear not the 4 speed and the 3.15 rear gear. GM power train had the specs on their website and the 0-60 with the 6 speed auto was slower than the 0-60 with the 4 speed auto and the 3.15 rear gear but the fuel milage was better. powertrain has since taken down the post.
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Originally Posted by SHOOTER 49
I think that really sums it up. This forum compares numbers run all over the country at different times, places, altitudes, temperatures, track conditions, and humidity---with a variety of drivers. Until a bone stock is put along side a bone stock on the same track on the same day the numbers posted will never settle a damn thing.