Why a z51?
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Why a z51?
I am in the market for a new corvette and recently have been to several dealerships. I want an 06 loaded, with z51. My question is why would the sales people be trying to talk me out of the z51 package. It seems that more then not they say it's not worth it, the ride is to rough and so on. Am I missing something or should I stay away from the z51.
My reason for wanting it is not to go to the race track I just want all the performance I can get and don't want to look back and wish I had it.
My reason for wanting it is not to go to the race track I just want all the performance I can get and don't want to look back and wish I had it.
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Originally Posted by Art Wake
I am in the market for a new corvette and recently have been to several dealerships. I want an 06 loaded, with z51. My question is why would the sales people be trying to talk me out of the z51 package. It seems that more then not they say it's not worth it, the ride is to rough and so on. Am I missing something or should I stay away from the z51.
My reason for wanting it is not to go to the race track I just want all the performance I can get and don't want to look back and wish I had it.
My reason for wanting it is not to go to the race track I just want all the performance I can get and don't want to look back and wish I had it.
Get what you want.
And I don't know why you wouldn't want Z51, unless you're driving on really crappy roads. Then F55 may be the ticket.
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The sales folks are saying that because the average car owner as well as some corvette owners place a priority on ride quality. Some prefer the base or F55 suspension options. That being said many people don't think the Z51 ride is uncomfortable. The Z51s ride is no worse than other sports cars that have only one suspension setup available, such as M3s, some 911s, 350Zs.
I don't blame the sales people for trying to talk you out of the Z51. Chevy misleadingly advertises it as an option suitable only for track driving when that is not necessarily true. Some like it on the street as well. Everyone has a preference.
I don't blame the sales people for trying to talk you out of the Z51. Chevy misleadingly advertises it as an option suitable only for track driving when that is not necessarily true. Some like it on the street as well. Everyone has a preference.
Last edited by rfopt; 02-18-2006 at 06:46 PM.
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I've driven both the Z-51 and non Z51. I bought the non Z and made a few upgrades. When the road gets BUMPY, the Z51 gets NERVOUS. I live in the Northeast with bumpy roads and my non z with some carefully selected upgrades never gets nervous.
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Yea, but wouldn't you expect a less predictable, more bumpy ride over uneven pavement w/ a stiffer suspension to begin with? I don't have a c6, but i do have an s2000 w a suspension stiffer than stock. You just need to know when to use the full potential of your car and when not to. A super stiff susp. will be better suited to the track, but will also still perform under nominal road conditions..... but if the road is bumpy you'd better watch out. I have no doubt that the f-55 will out perform a z51 under those conditions.
#8
As a couple of people have said, it's likely that the sales reps didn't have one in stock or inbound. Did you find one to drive? The only way to decide, I think, is to drive both the Z51 and base or F55. If you don't see the difference, save your money.
My '96 LT4 was equipped with Z51 and we loved it. I ordered my C6 with the option after test driving two with Z51s, and two with base suspension. It simply preference...and, for me, being close to lots of smooth, curvy roads and some accessible tracks in Northern California.
My '96 LT4 was equipped with Z51 and we loved it. I ordered my C6 with the option after test driving two with Z51s, and two with base suspension. It simply preference...and, for me, being close to lots of smooth, curvy roads and some accessible tracks in Northern California.
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If GM ran their operation right, you should be able to buy/order the vette that YOU want. Sometimes that is not always the case, though, especially with the vette.
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Originally Posted by Art Wake
I am in the market for a new corvette and recently have been to several dealerships. I want an 06 loaded, with z51. My question is why would the sales people be trying to talk me out of the z51 package. It seems that more then not they say it's not worth it, the ride is to rough and so on. Am I missing something or should I stay away from the z51.
Don't tell me.......The salesman likely told you that there was not "that much" of a performance difference between the two in an effort to get you to buy the non Z51 equipped car didn't he? Don't believe it. Any time someone tells you that consider their motives. More often than not, they either are trying to sell you a non Z51 car or they are trying to justify their own purchase.
My reason for wanting it is not to go to the race track I just want all the performance I can get and don't want to look back and wish I had it.
Don't settle for less because you will regret it. No need in making a monthly payment or paying cash for something less than what you wanted in the first place. Every month you send in that payment you are liable to wonder what might have been had I gone ahead and gotten a Z51. If you are spending that much money, then you may as well get what you want and don't worry about whether some salesman is going to make his commision.
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Do you prefer better cooling, braking, acceleration, and handling; or do you prefer a ride that is more compliant? Its personal preference and you really can't go wrong, performance levels of all C5 and C6 vettes are far superior to most other vehicles you will encounter. I have had both, my preference is Z51, I like to charge thru corners as hard as possible.
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I don't think this was mentioned, but I bought the Z51 for the gearing and the brakes, not the suspension. I can adjust that somewhat with different shocks. In the C6 it's more than just suspension, it's a performance package. I think it also has extra coolers, and I don't recall the G meter on the heads up display on the non Z51. Just a few more thoughts
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Originally Posted by rfopt
The sales folks are saying that because the average car owner as well as some corvette owners place a priority on ride quality. Some prefer the base or F55 suspension options. That being said many people don't think the Z51 ride is uncomfortable. The Z51s ride is no worse than other sports cars that have only one suspension setup available, such as M3s, some 911s, 350Zs.
I don't blame the sales people for trying to talk you out of the Z51. Chevy misleadingly advertises it as an option suitable only for track driving when that is not necessarily true. Some like it on the street as well. Everyone has a preference.
I don't blame the sales people for trying to talk you out of the Z51. Chevy misleadingly advertises it as an option suitable only for track driving when that is not necessarily true. Some like it on the street as well. Everyone has a preference.
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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
I've driven both the Z-51 and non Z51. I bought the non Z and made a few upgrades. When the road gets BUMPY, the Z51 gets NERVOUS. I live in the Northeast with bumpy roads and my non z with some carefully selected upgrades never gets nervous.
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Originally Posted by LS WON
Because they don't have one in stock or can locate one for you to sell to you.
Unless you said something indicating ride quality is a high priority for you, IMO the only reason a salesperson would try and talk you out of it would be if he/she didn't think he could get one (or get one quickly, he wants to sell you a car today after all).
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Originally Posted by Daylon
A set of Bilisteins will cure the nervous feeling, just swapped mine and could not believe the difference!
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Originally Posted by xs650
That's not suprising. My impresion test driving a Z51 was that the stock shocks were crude.
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Originally Posted by 99 The Hard Way
I don't recall the G meter on the heads up display on the non Z51. Just a few more thoughts
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There are very strong opinions and preferences on this issue...but what it should come down to is YOUR priorities and how YOU are going to use the vehicle. IMHO you should figure out what's important to you and how you are going to use the car and then test drive both and decide what works best for YOU.
If you test drive the F55, be sure to drive it on less than perfect roads...this is where it has it's advantages.
If you test drive the F55, be sure to drive it on less than perfect roads...this is where it has it's advantages.