501HP / 460TQ ......."Cam Only" by 21st Century Muscle Cars(PICs's & VIDEOS)
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
501HP / 460TQ ......."Cam Only" by 21st Century Muscle Cars(PICs's & VIDEOS)
FINAL (SAE) DYNO RESULTS ARE IN...501.0 RWHP / 459.7 RWTQ
My factory baseline #'s were...
388HP
392TQ
"Cam Only"...meaning 100% factory block and untouched LS3 heads w/ supporting mods (headers/intake/tune)
I purchased a brand new 2010 Corvette a few weeks ago and dropped it off w/ John@21st Century Muscle Cars in Dallas to have the following parts installed...
2010 LS3 Corvette MN6 w/ 500 miles
-21st Century CMC-30 cam 227/239 .629 .623 114LSA
(idle set@700rpm)
-LG Superpro 1 3/4"" headers (no cats)
-B&B bullets for 3" exhaust
-ATI 10% UD pulley
-LSXr 102mm intake (hasn't been ported)
-Nick Williams 102mm billet throttle body
-Halltech Superbee 102mm air intake
-Comp 921 spring kit, titanium retainers, harden seats
-Comp 7.4" harden pushrods
-Cloyes timing chain http://www.jegs.com/i/Cloyes/220/9-194/10002/-1
-160* thermostat
-Hurst Billet shifter
-dyno tuned by Matt Garzonie as featured in this article
http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...ws6/index.html
I chose to use 21st Century Muscle Cars based on the quality of work and attention to detail on my last 2006 C6 Magnacharged car.
http://21stcenturymusclecars.com/
15610 Midway Rd
Addison, TX 75001
(972) 417-7177
21st Century CMC-30 cam (proprietary grind by Comp Cams for 21st)
227/239 114
intake .629 lift
exhaust .623 lift
John does provide the cam card from Comp after you buy the cam.
VIDEOS............
My factory baseline #'s were...
388HP
392TQ
"Cam Only"...meaning 100% factory block and untouched LS3 heads w/ supporting mods (headers/intake/tune)
I purchased a brand new 2010 Corvette a few weeks ago and dropped it off w/ John@21st Century Muscle Cars in Dallas to have the following parts installed...
2010 LS3 Corvette MN6 w/ 500 miles
-21st Century CMC-30 cam 227/239 .629 .623 114LSA
(idle set@700rpm)
-LG Superpro 1 3/4"" headers (no cats)
-B&B bullets for 3" exhaust
-ATI 10% UD pulley
-LSXr 102mm intake (hasn't been ported)
-Nick Williams 102mm billet throttle body
-Halltech Superbee 102mm air intake
-Comp 921 spring kit, titanium retainers, harden seats
-Comp 7.4" harden pushrods
-Cloyes timing chain http://www.jegs.com/i/Cloyes/220/9-194/10002/-1
-160* thermostat
-Hurst Billet shifter
-dyno tuned by Matt Garzonie as featured in this article
http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...ws6/index.html
I chose to use 21st Century Muscle Cars based on the quality of work and attention to detail on my last 2006 C6 Magnacharged car.
http://21stcenturymusclecars.com/
15610 Midway Rd
Addison, TX 75001
(972) 417-7177
21st Century CMC-30 cam (proprietary grind by Comp Cams for 21st)
227/239 114
intake .629 lift
exhaust .623 lift
John does provide the cam card from Comp after you buy the cam.
VIDEOS............
Last edited by C6-LS2-MN6; 04-22-2012 at 01:41 AM.
#6
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
#7
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I actually bought a larger cam to begin with, but John@21st Century talked me out of it before we started and recommended going with this one which is fairly moderate in size. His company and crew puts drivability first in their builds.
#10
Tech Contributor
For anyone seeing the split and not feeling good about subjective driveability statements, the 227/239 is a 5 degree overlap cam and very much will drive near perfect. The math agrees with the subjective comments.
#11
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Many on here live by the "larger is always better" mentality, but after talking to Spin and other various tuners on here...that is why I chose the 1 3/4" LG Super Pro headers w/ the 32" long primaries for a broader TQ curve and really wanted to stay with a moderate size cam.
Last edited by C6-LS2-MN6; 01-02-2011 at 05:02 PM.
#13
Drifting
FINAL (SAE) DYNO RESULTS ARE IN...501.0 RWHP / 459.7 RWTQ
My factory baseline #'s were...
388HP
392TQ
"Cam Only"...meaning 100% factory block and untouched LS3 heads w/ supporting mods (headers/intake/tune)
I purchased a brand new 2010 Corvette a few weeks ago and dropped it off w/ John@21st Century Muscle Cars in Dallas to have the following parts installed...
2010 LS3 Corvette MN6 w/ 500 miles
-21st Century CMC-30 cam 227/239 .629 .623 114LSA
(idle set@700rpm)
-LG Superpro 1 3/4"" headers (no cats)
-B&B bullets for 3" exhaust
-ATI 10% UD pulley
-LSXr 102mm intake (hasn't been ported)
-Nick Williams 102mm billet throttle body
-Halltech Superbee 102mm air intake
-Comp 921 spring kit, titanium retainers, harden seats
-Comp 7.4" harden pushrods
-Cloyes timing chain http://www.jegs.com/i/Cloyes/220/9-194/10002/-1
-160* thermostat
-Hurst Billet shifter
-dyno tuned by Matt Garzonie as featured in this article
http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...ws6/index.html
My factory baseline #'s were...
388HP
392TQ
"Cam Only"...meaning 100% factory block and untouched LS3 heads w/ supporting mods (headers/intake/tune)
I purchased a brand new 2010 Corvette a few weeks ago and dropped it off w/ John@21st Century Muscle Cars in Dallas to have the following parts installed...
2010 LS3 Corvette MN6 w/ 500 miles
-21st Century CMC-30 cam 227/239 .629 .623 114LSA
(idle set@700rpm)
-LG Superpro 1 3/4"" headers (no cats)
-B&B bullets for 3" exhaust
-ATI 10% UD pulley
-LSXr 102mm intake (hasn't been ported)
-Nick Williams 102mm billet throttle body
-Halltech Superbee 102mm air intake
-Comp 921 spring kit, titanium retainers, harden seats
-Comp 7.4" harden pushrods
-Cloyes timing chain http://www.jegs.com/i/Cloyes/220/9-194/10002/-1
-160* thermostat
-Hurst Billet shifter
-dyno tuned by Matt Garzonie as featured in this article
http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...ws6/index.html
#14
Safety Car
Sounds amazing, incredible low speed manners...enjoy and be proud of a great set of mods! No doubt the car is probably mind boggling when the revs climb...
That water in the cup video is cool....for some OCD guys, it is braver than doing the mods themselves... LOL
Geez, I miss my car sooooo much
That water in the cup video is cool....for some OCD guys, it is braver than doing the mods themselves... LOL
Geez, I miss my car sooooo much
Last edited by Craigster05; 01-02-2011 at 09:21 AM.
#17
Safety Car
Even though this is a cam only car with great numbers......could it have hit 500 without the FAST 102 intake? Did the FAST intake helped at all on peak or midrange? What would had happened without the FAST 102. Sorry guys, I just thought we were missing something here. Just wondering what my car would do with the 230/234 and the added FAST 102 intake. Thanks
#18
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Even though this is a cam only car with great numbers......could it have hit 500 without the FAST 102 intake? Did the FAST intake helped at all on peak or midrange? What would had happened without the FAST 102. Sorry guys, I just thought we were missing something here. Just wondering what my car would do with the 230/234 and the added FAST 102 intake. Thanks
After the install was over I sat down with John (owner) and Matt (tuner) to discuss the results. They mentioned, the Fast Intake did help the HP on the top end to inch by the 500 mark, but the most notable gains were in the midrange power curve compared to other cars without a Fast and this same cam! They were VERY impressed the power curve of the setup and the smaller 1 3/4" LG (with longer than usual 32" primaries) can also be contributing factor to the impressive low end TQ.
OBSSSD@work, I'm not a 100% sure on the "XER" lobe...you would need to call John@21st on that question. I did ask him and was thinking he mentioned XER lobes were used.
Last edited by C6-LS2-MN6; 01-02-2011 at 01:49 PM.
#19
Drifting
Even though this is a cam only car with great numbers......could it have hit 500 without the FAST 102 intake? Did the FAST intake helped at all on peak or midrange? What would had happened without the FAST 102. Sorry guys, I just thought we were missing something here. Just wondering what my car would do with the 230/234 and the added FAST 102 intake. Thanks