Let's talk about that annoying fuel tank crossover tube for a second...
#1
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Let's talk about that annoying fuel tank crossover tube for a second...
I'm in the middle of a fuel pump replacement; another big thanks to Motorhead-47 for the writeup!
I stink like gas and my arm is bleeding, but I can now see the black plastic tab which needs to be pushed aside to rotate the crossover collar...However it won't move. Should it be pushed to the LEFT (toward the driver tank) or to the RIGHT? Will it snap into it's new position allowing me to rotate the collar, or do I have to hold it out of the way while rotating the collar?
It took me about 15 minutes into the job to get there, and then 2 more hours to get HERE. Here meaning on the CF looking for help
I stink like gas and my arm is bleeding, but I can now see the black plastic tab which needs to be pushed aside to rotate the crossover collar...However it won't move. Should it be pushed to the LEFT (toward the driver tank) or to the RIGHT? Will it snap into it's new position allowing me to rotate the collar, or do I have to hold it out of the way while rotating the collar?
It took me about 15 minutes into the job to get there, and then 2 more hours to get HERE. Here meaning on the CF looking for help
#2
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I'm in the middle of a fuel pump replacement; another big thanks to Motorhead-47 for the writeup!
I stink like gas and my arm is bleeding, but I can now see the black plastic tab which needs to be pushed aside to rotate the crossover collar...However it won't move. Should it be pushed to the LEFT (toward the driver tank) or to the RIGHT? Will it snap into it's new position allowing me to rotate the collar, or do I have to hold it out of the way while rotating the collar?
It took me about 15 minutes into the job to get there, and then 2 more hours to get HERE. Here meaning on the CF looking for help
I stink like gas and my arm is bleeding, but I can now see the black plastic tab which needs to be pushed aside to rotate the crossover collar...However it won't move. Should it be pushed to the LEFT (toward the driver tank) or to the RIGHT? Will it snap into it's new position allowing me to rotate the collar, or do I have to hold it out of the way while rotating the collar?
It took me about 15 minutes into the job to get there, and then 2 more hours to get HERE. Here meaning on the CF looking for help
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I was exactly were you are about 24 hours ago. That tab is stuck between the locking mechanism and the nylon insert to the tank. It turns out that black piece has a split on the other side and it is very flexible once you get it loose. You can try two different approaches. First of all you can go the way I did and use a flat blade screw driver to pry it out from the notch. That worked for me and didn't break anything. The second thing you can try, which I didn't think of until later, is to use that same flat blade screw driver to turn the metal locking ring more clockwise to take the pressure off of the black tab. It really moves very easily once you loosen it up.
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#4
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I need to study the photos again in Motorhead's writeup.
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Are you still bleeding?
Got it. Will try that. I was under the impression that it moved to the side but stayed on the collar.
Thanks guys!
First of all you can go the way I did and use a flat blade screw driver to pry it out from the notch. That worked for me and didn't break anything. The second thing you can try, which I didn't think of until later, is to use that same flat blade screw driver to turn the metal locking ring more clockwise to take the pressure off of the black tab. It really moves very easily once you loosen it up.
Thanks guys!
#7
Le Mans Master
I removed it using only my fingers by spreading and bending the split end and twisting the whole thing over and off the tube.
#8
Track Junky
I used a flathead screwdriver and popped it away from the clip with very little force. Insert flat head underneath the tab and gently pry. Once you get it apart, the next challenge is getting the crossover tube separated...
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Tell me about it. I ended up with the lines from the inside of the tank coming out of the tank by about 6" still attached to the cross over lines. You'd of though it was a pair of dogs hooked together.
BJK
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#10
Burning Brakes
I did this a few weeks back, twice actually. My locking ring turned easily both times. I wonder if the design is different on yours? Of course everything else about the job fought me to screaming.
#11
Burning Brakes
Same here, both times. First time broke the mounting tabs, second time luckily did not. I thought the lube I used would prevent that, but it did not. At least you can use a water hose to get the dogs apart!
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Guys you only need to pull back on the black plastic ring and then you can rotate the crossover tube metal fitting. The tab on the plastic ring occupies the space that the metal fitting needs to rotate into. I'll find a few more pix and post them up. Once you see the thing it becomes obvious.
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Guys you only need to pull back on the black plastic ring and then you can rotate the crossover tube metal fitting. The tab on the plastic ring occupies the space that the metal fitting needs to rotate into. I'll find a few more pix and post them up. Once you see the thing it becomes obvious.
BJK
#15
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Guys you only need to pull back on the black plastic ring and then you can rotate the crossover tube metal fitting. The tab on the plastic ring occupies the space that the metal fitting needs to rotate into. I'll find a few more pix and post them up. Once you see the thing it becomes obvious.
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This is as it looks when everything is locked. The black plastic locking ring pulls towards the crossover tube and turns either way.
Here the black locking ring is moved out of the locking position. Metal ring is still holding the two pieces together.
Here the metal retaining ring is moved just slightly counterclockwise and the crossover tube is ready to be separated from the tank.
Tank side with crossover tube removed.
Here the black locking ring is moved out of the locking position. Metal ring is still holding the two pieces together.
Here the metal retaining ring is moved just slightly counterclockwise and the crossover tube is ready to be separated from the tank.
Tank side with crossover tube removed.
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Sweet, thank you for the pictures. I have seen the top one (in Motorhead's write up) but couldn't quite picture what was the locking portion and what was the crossover tube.
So to be clear, the tab is on the bottom of the tube, forward of tube centerline (so it's just out of sight when looking up from the bottom) correct? Mine would not move laterally either direction so I'll try pulling it completely out.
I made no progress and got stuck last night because my fuel line disconnect tool would not work on the line behind the tank. I have to buy the metal one suggested by BJK tonight in his thread a few weeks back...
So to be clear, the tab is on the bottom of the tube, forward of tube centerline (so it's just out of sight when looking up from the bottom) correct? Mine would not move laterally either direction so I'll try pulling it completely out.
I made no progress and got stuck last night because my fuel line disconnect tool would not work on the line behind the tank. I have to buy the metal one suggested by BJK tonight in his thread a few weeks back...
Last edited by ScaryFast; 08-17-2011 at 03:19 PM.
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After pulling and rotating the tab out of position, I use off-set pliers (e.g. channel locks, used to be called water pump pliers, not sure why) to rotate the collar. I have done it this way several times on both tanks. Never been hard to rotate the collars, but it is a bear to get a grip on the collars. Perhaps on a lift it would be easier to get a hand on the collars but if car is on jack stands, just not much room to manuever.
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Sweet, thank you for the pictures. I have seen the top one (in Motorhead's write up) but couldn't quite picture what was the locking portion and what was the crossover tube.
So to be clear, the tab is on the bottom of the tube, forward of tube centerline (so it's just out of sight when looking up from the bottom) correct? Mine would not move laterally either direction so I'll try pulling it completely out.
I made no progress and got stuck last night because my fuel line disconnect tool would not work on the line behind the tank. I have to buy the metal one suggested by BJK tonight in his thread a few weeks back...
So to be clear, the tab is on the bottom of the tube, forward of tube centerline (so it's just out of sight when looking up from the bottom) correct? Mine would not move laterally either direction so I'll try pulling it completely out.
I made no progress and got stuck last night because my fuel line disconnect tool would not work on the line behind the tank. I have to buy the metal one suggested by BJK tonight in his thread a few weeks back...
BJK
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