JerriVette

whats the guarantee?

Is there a potiential for any problem to occur during install or after?

Stars_Fan

0Chuck CoW

I'm cool with it.... I've not had ONE SINGLE customer EVER tell me they didn't like it

or that it wasn't worth it....

And if someone wants to know....

MY GUARANTEE IS THAT YOU WILL LIKE IT, or YOU DON'T PAY FOR IT....

And, OBVIOUSLY.... I REMOVE IT too!

Stay TUNED!
Chuck CoW

gibear2k5

I don't get it..are you saying I'm crazy?

5knives

Any more info on this product?

Turbooo2u

Well put. I'll be trying it at Carlisle Thursday.

RedZR

Chuck,

Is it able to be detected by the dealership in any way (I am concerned about warranty issues that arise when the computer is re-flashed)?

Dan

JerriVette

Any chance of any damage to the pcm electrical system etc... ? If not...what the hell..sounds like a nice little mod for 99 or 199 dollars..after the promo...

I understand the value of improving the "feel" of the vehicle..Its been stated quite well in this thread.. zero to 60mph in 4 flat......

Hell stock the C6 can top out at 190 mph......thats pretty fast ...faster in fact than I'll ever go.. but if this new mod "makes the car feel peppy and its the most amazing C6 product ever offered..."

Thats pretty cool. Thanks for your efforts. The title states its the most amazing C6 product ever offered....guaranteed...

Does the computer relearn its old habits after time? dumbing down the throttle..

FloydSummerOf68

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I understand most of his posts are simply marketing to certain buyers...

I just want to see ANYTHING to prove that this increases performance and I'll be a buyer. I'm always looking for a way to increase performance, but I don't want a placebo effect of believing I got performance just because a pedal is more sensitive.

If it isn't exactly like the sprint booster, which chuck claims it's not, then I want to know what it is doing differently.

realcanuk

I agree with this completely. I spoke with Chuck last night and after his thorough explanation what I believe is that this mod is meant to eliminate the sluggishness of the throttle response and he made no claim of adding measurable horsepower. What I can say is that the explanations he gives sound credible, he has never steered me wrong yet, and I have been satisfied with all the work he has done for me including tuning. Like he said to me on the phone, and posted in these forums.... If you dont like the result... money back. I will be trying this at Carlisle and until then thats all I got !!!!!

TTZ06VETTE

Let us know how it goes. I'm in the camp that it should be measurable. Whether it is moving the torque curve up in the power band(rpm range), or simply adding more timing and fuel earlier due to the improved throttle opening rate, you should be able to see a before and after in the data. Otherwise its all perception. Hell it feels like my car runs better after I change the oil

Craigster05

I hate to bring it to this level, so please realize I have tongue in cheek as I say this:

Everybody has their own idea of how they like their girl (or guy if you are a lady) in the sack. Some like it fast and furious, some like it relaxing and smooth; some like dominance, some submission.

This mod will give you the chance to "feel" more snap and response to less of a pedal push and depending on how/where you drive, it may make the car a lot more enjoyable to YOU. For me, this is something I always wanted and tried to accomplish with HP and EFI along with all my good friends who are what I would rate knowledgeable and excellent tuners...I even spoke about this with Greg Banish when my shop hosted one of his tuning classes...but no matter how I tried to attain what I wanted, it was elusive.

When I had my 06, the most enjoyable mod I did (and after a while I did everything me, Spin and Joe could think of) was my 4.10 gears. Forgetting the launch,torque multiplication, etc I was tickled pink that I could ride in 6th gear on the highway at 70 mph and have response without having to downshift. That is the best way I can relate the feel here...the gas pedal responds so much quicker to smaller inputs...the car is more to what I want to feel.

I'm an old throttle cable lover (well...old in general ), and in many ways I enjoyed my older Mach 1, Camaros, etc because of that '"snap" to the pedal....and I was doubtful it could be accomplished in my 08 A6. Im a computer engineer and work for big evil Microsoft...and without giving much away technically, after having Chuck explain what he felt comfortable telling me, this is a very unique and revolutionary way to accomplish it that others haven't figured out yet...that doesn't mean they wont or cant...just he is the first to do what he is doing and how he is doing it. Remember...not that long ago...no one thought they could use a phone to browse the internet....no one thought the 640 K DOS memory barrier could be broken (or needed)...etc.

Chuck has his lovers and haters, and this is a open forum, but all politics and bashing aside I think if the concept of what he has come up with in intriguing to you, give it a try, you have nothing to lose.

LEAVINU

Not sure this can be measured on a dyno though since dyno pulls are done at WOT. Maybe I'm missing something.

FloydSummerOf68

That's all fine and dandy, but if that's all it's doing that's all I need said in the original post.

Instead I see comments about getting lost power and improved performance when what I believe it to be is only a more sensitive pedal.

I'd really like to just understand how it's different than the sprint booster, or if this is just a more affordable option to get the same results.

joe11204

What part do you not understand. It does not add HP, rather improves throttle response.

I have no dog in this hunt. That said:

I don't think there is a Tuner/Vendor on CF that has more haters and lovers than Chuck. The majority of people never met him, spent a dollar in his shop, or even spoke to him on the phone. The haters feel inclined to follow along with the crowd. It's just a mob mentality. That is too bad because he is a great guy to know and would take the shirt off his back for a customer (hopefully it's not the real tight yellow one Chuck ).

BornSUPERCHARGED

Guys I think the main thing to remember here is that forum vendors can offer any product/service they wish, and negative comments in their threads aren't allowed. I have nothing against Chuck or his new product/service, I wanted to know how it was different from using EFI or HP Tuners to accomplish the same thing. In 4 pages it's been stated that the tables DO work, and conversely that they do NOT work.

Just as we're wanting proof that CoW Booster actually does something, I'd like to see some kind of proof that the tables do or do not work.

As Edcmat said,
Perhaps someone could have a base tune and show the result.
Then modify the table I mentioned and show the result.
Then have Chuck's CoW Booster installed and again show the result.

If there's no change across the board, then it's all just snake oil.
If CoW Booster is the only one that makes any difference, then perhaps he's right and exclusivity is on his side - but I've only mentioned one table and I'm not even a tuner. All I've done is a Google search and pulled widely available information regarding electronic throttle positioning.. seems to have gotten people worked up though.

Not having experience with it myself, I won't argue over if the tables work or not. I asked if you're using those tables. I'll just reference this post instead:
In my opinion questioning the validity of a $99 or $199 mod would be an appropriate question. Asking how it functions and not just taking your word for it is not challenging you, it's wanting to understand something before you buy it. I am just questioning how it could be different from tables. Others have questioned if it does anything at all, because 3% throttle blade opened at 20% pedal doesn't sound right to them. Hell it doesn't sound right to me either. Exclusiveness in accomplishing this modification is yet to be proven and is hearsay at the moment.

Hi Johnson, I take it you enjoy dropping $99 like it's nothing without any proof it changes anything except "feel", and without questioning if other tuners can do the same thing (thus disproving the proprietary exclusivity notion)? If you don't care to do research before you buy something, that's fine. Ignore my posts and you won't have to think anymore

Precisely, SOTP is not scientific proof of anything.

Keep it civil

5knives

I'm not bashing anyone, and certainly not a respected vendor such as Mr. Chuck, but I would like more info on what this product is doing. If it's just better throttle response, fine. But it seems some of the explanations are ambiguous. The claim that it is not like the sprint booster is what really spiked my interest, since many people feel that is pure marketing BS. So how is it different?

And in all fairness, most of the responses we're getting are from 3rd parties. I'd much rather hear from the man who put in the time and effort to develop this.

Turbooo2u

My car will be a good guinea pig. Heads/cam but no gears. Car has a very lazy throttle compared to my 07'Z. (see MODs below). I'm not looking for or expecting more HP, just better T-response. See you at 9am Thurs Mr. Cow. Looking forward to it!

Joe_G

I'm afraid Chuck's policy of writing so many words means that people skim them and don't get the point of the mod.

This mod WILL NOT show up on a dyno. There is really no way to measure this mod!

If you get it, and don't like it, he will give you your money back. How simple is that???

realcanuk

This very well said. I can tell from the posts that many who have not used or met Chuck don't "get" him. I can understand that because he has a certain way of expressing himself that many people might mistake as arrogant. I can tell you that after spending 5 full days with him at his shop he really does care about his customers and does everything possible to see that they are happy. Like any other mod, this one will be good for some and not for others.