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Haha, I don't know about that, but thank you. I'm still learning each time I go out to the strip.
Just when I was getting the hang of the full throttle "accelerate into the clutch drop" method, my clutch let go.
Just when I was getting the hang of the full throttle "accelerate into the clutch drop" method, my clutch let go.
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There's not much to sort out.
Spin's cam makes great power with minimal overlap which equates to nearly unmatched driveability. It's a relatively mild cam that makes great power and is proven over and over.
Pat G specs a cam for you and your specific goals, mods, motor, tranny style.
You don't need a "big nasty" cam to make power in the LS3 motor as has been demonstrated over and over.
You can go big and have a rowdy lope at idle and obnoxious street manners on light throttle, but it isn't necessary if your main goal is the most power out of the car.
Spin's cam makes great power with minimal overlap which equates to nearly unmatched driveability. It's a relatively mild cam that makes great power and is proven over and over.
Pat G specs a cam for you and your specific goals, mods, motor, tranny style.
You don't need a "big nasty" cam to make power in the LS3 motor as has been demonstrated over and over.
You can go big and have a rowdy lope at idle and obnoxious street manners on light throttle, but it isn't necessary if your main goal is the most power out of the car.
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There's not much to sort out.
Spin's cam makes great power with minimal overlap which equates to nearly unmatched driveability. It's a relatively mild cam that makes great power and is proven over and over.
Pat G specs a cam for you and your specific goals, mods, motor, tranny style.
You don't need a "big nasty" cam to make power in the LS3 motor as has been demonstrated over and over.
You can go big and have a rowdy lope at idle and obnoxious street manners on light throttle, but it isn't necessary if your main goal is the most power out of the car.
Spin's cam makes great power with minimal overlap which equates to nearly unmatched driveability. It's a relatively mild cam that makes great power and is proven over and over.
Pat G specs a cam for you and your specific goals, mods, motor, tranny style.
You don't need a "big nasty" cam to make power in the LS3 motor as has been demonstrated over and over.
You can go big and have a rowdy lope at idle and obnoxious street manners on light throttle, but it isn't necessary if your main goal is the most power out of the car.
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Pat G said hed hope to have my specs done by tonight... Ill post them up as soon as I get them!
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13-'14
You auto or 6 speed? It's fairly easy with bolt-ons and cam and somewhat decent air to go 10.99. Every .1 after that though. . .that's a little more difficult.
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that's exactly what i said, with just bolt/ons,went 10.92 and it wasnt good enoughso 10.8s should be easy with a cam
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For me, it was much more about trap speed than ET. I wanted a 130mph car and so far, my current best is 128.7. That was with +850 DA so I think with a little luck and better air, I'd be there for sure.
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I have a 6 speed manual...
Wow Dennis! how did you run 10s with just bolt on? I consider myself an OK driver, beats were 12.24@117 bone stock run flats and 11.8@121, still run flats with headers, offroad xpipe, z06 mufflers, vararam, 160tstat and Eva tune... But 10s is impressive!
Wow Dennis! how did you run 10s with just bolt on? I consider myself an OK driver, beats were 12.24@117 bone stock run flats and 11.8@121, still run flats with headers, offroad xpipe, z06 mufflers, vararam, 160tstat and Eva tune... But 10s is impressive!
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I have a 6 speed manual...
Wow Dennis! how did you run 10s with just bolt on? I consider myself an OK driver, beats were 12.24@117 bone stock run flats and 11.8@121, still run flats with headers, offroad xpipe, z06 mufflers, vararam, 160tstat and Eva tune... But 10s is impressive!
Wow Dennis! how did you run 10s with just bolt on? I consider myself an OK driver, beats were 12.24@117 bone stock run flats and 11.8@121, still run flats with headers, offroad xpipe, z06 mufflers, vararam, 160tstat and Eva tune... But 10s is impressive!
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I think you mentioned having a cartek cam, do you know the specs?
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I'm not proficient in full throttle launches just yet, but looked at a couple of my logs, I'm getting there slowly but surely.
Previously, I would bring the rpms up to 6000-6500 and let the clutch out, slip it until I felt the tires grab, then let the clutch all the way out.
This technique would get me solid 1.6-1.56 60fts but I think there's a better way.
Joe_G and I are buddies and I try to mirror his style, as he's the one who essentially taunt me how to launch these cars, and what particular aspects of the log to review for areas of improvement.
Instead of holding the rpms steady on the launch, I'm starting to accelerate into the launch while letting the clutch out quickly. I try not to go slow enough to have a bad 60ft, but not too fast where it sends the tires up in smoke.
If you do it right, you'll be at 100% throttle before the car ever moves, the nose of the car won't dip on the launch, and you'll see low 1.5 60fts on the timeslip.
Go back to the video I posted in post #33 of this thread. Here, I didn't have the rpms high enough and as such the nose of the car dipped down at the launch, which cost me a little ET and MPH on the run.
Previously, I would bring the rpms up to 6000-6500 and let the clutch out, slip it until I felt the tires grab, then let the clutch all the way out.
This technique would get me solid 1.6-1.56 60fts but I think there's a better way.
Joe_G and I are buddies and I try to mirror his style, as he's the one who essentially taunt me how to launch these cars, and what particular aspects of the log to review for areas of improvement.
Instead of holding the rpms steady on the launch, I'm starting to accelerate into the launch while letting the clutch out quickly. I try not to go slow enough to have a bad 60ft, but not too fast where it sends the tires up in smoke.
If you do it right, you'll be at 100% throttle before the car ever moves, the nose of the car won't dip on the launch, and you'll see low 1.5 60fts on the timeslip.
Go back to the video I posted in post #33 of this thread. Here, I didn't have the rpms high enough and as such the nose of the car dipped down at the launch, which cost me a little ET and MPH on the run.
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OK, guys... Pat got back to me with some specs, here whats he suggested. Let me know what you guys think!? Hows it gonna run, idle, driveability, HP predictions!?
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That cam is a very similar cam to what I have in my car so I'd expect the performance to be close. The intake lobes are different, but the exhaust lobes are the same.
Essentially it's the same cam I have but you have LSL lobes compared to my EPS lobes.
You've seen my dyno and videos so assuming you do all the supporting bolt-ons, I'd expect in the neighborhood of 480-495whp
Essentially it's the same cam I have but you have LSL lobes compared to my EPS lobes.
You've seen my dyno and videos so assuming you do all the supporting bolt-ons, I'd expect in the neighborhood of 480-495whp
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That's pretty much what I was thinking Justin. Wonder what the difference in the lobes will do?
Only thing I think I'm not doing as far as supporting bolt ons is the underdrive pulley, other than that I think everything's else is close.
Only thing I think I'm not doing as far as supporting bolt ons is the underdrive pulley, other than that I think everything's else is close.
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Why not an UDP? It's free power.
I'm curious to see what your torque will look like as the EPS lobes are supposed to carry it out a bit further. The biggest point Pat mentioned about them is that they close the intake valve just a hair softer to reduce the 'sewing machine' noise.
I'm curious to see what your torque will look like as the EPS lobes are supposed to carry it out a bit further. The biggest point Pat mentioned about them is that they close the intake valve just a hair softer to reduce the 'sewing machine' noise.