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#21
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Heres the second try, better but the easy lease is not releasing
I'm going to a PVA release and vacuum bag.
http://www.talkcomposites.com/Topic5...dex=3&Update=1
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So I just dumped 600 bucks more onto my cc for a vacuum bag kit
http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/resi...arter-kit.aspx
http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/resi...arter-kit.aspx
Last edited by 383; 02-24-2012 at 05:15 PM. Reason: I spell like im handycaped
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you really have a lot of perseverance. keep on because it looks promising, altho rl's experience in trying to sell them may be an issue for you, too. good luck!
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St. Jude Donor '17
You spelled handicapped wrong
That a good little system and should serve you well.
Practice your bagging because as you may already know leaks/air are not your friends. Don't scimp on materials expecially peelply and breather material. Also as you go along you'll find bagging material with about a 400% elongation factor will be very useful.
At my peak I could bag, pull a vacuum, cut off the pump, introduce the resin and get a full wetout saturation with out any additional vacuum or cycling. This was on practically any part size.
What resin are you using and how are you catalizing it?
That a good little system and should serve you well.
Practice your bagging because as you may already know leaks/air are not your friends. Don't scimp on materials expecially peelply and breather material. Also as you go along you'll find bagging material with about a 400% elongation factor will be very useful.
At my peak I could bag, pull a vacuum, cut off the pump, introduce the resin and get a full wetout saturation with out any additional vacuum or cycling. This was on practically any part size.
What resin are you using and how are you catalizing it?
So I just dumped 600 bucks more onto my cc for a vacuum bag kit
http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/resi...arter-kit.aspx
http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/resi...arter-kit.aspx
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St. Jude Donor '17
I wish I could say I was trying to get too much for them but I really don't think that was the case. Of course this was right when the recession started.
Now that common knowledge is getting around on how to open up these lights for lens changes and other mods the Carbon Bezel could be a good item for the DIY crowd. 383 may be able to sell em in the price range that I can offer the install during a lens change.
Hmmmmmmm......
383, I would have a special request though if you start cranking these out. Just a small mod to the molding.
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Ha, you caught the handicapped thing!
The resin I'm using has a Resin Viscosity of: 600 cps, whatever that means. The resin has a hardener with it that mixes 2:1 and I just picked up an old household oven (for the low low price of 0 dollars) for post cure. I think the post cure will be low temp and relatively quick.
The resin I'm using has a Resin Viscosity of: 600 cps, whatever that means. The resin has a hardener with it that mixes 2:1 and I just picked up an old household oven (for the low low price of 0 dollars) for post cure. I think the post cure will be low temp and relatively quick.
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I think that would have to be added after because it would never come out of the mold if it stuck into the openings. The outside of the mold has "lips" to wrap around the bezel so pulling the carbon out is already hard.
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Are you using any breather and bleeder material? I don't really see any per se. The breather is 2 fold. One it evacuates the air and 2 gives you the clamping force to push the material onto the mold. I always had the material in place prior to vacuum or brought the vacuum down slowly and worked the material where it needed to be. Do you have a vac gauge and if so how much vacuum are you getting? Did you have any leaking?
What weight fabric are you using. I think I asked before but don't remember...
What weight fabric are you using. I think I asked before but don't remember...
#34
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I have breather but did not put it in this time. Do you think it would help to put it over or under the mesh(carbon-peelply-mesh-breather-bag) Ill be re-bagging because I popped a hole somewhere under the bag. I'm getting -14psi or -1bar. The fabric I'm using is called Pro-finish
http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/prod...195gsm-1m.aspx
http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/prod...195gsm-1m.aspx
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Are you using a clear gel coat first or just carbon against the mold?
Usual order as I did it, Carbon, peel ply with slits in it, Bleeder, Some bag material to cover the part but not into the vac area, breather then bag. If you get a leak and cannot stop it you may as well toss the part as it will be full of air.
I looked for as close to 28kg. That would give me approx 14psi of clamping pressure. The part will start resembling the vacuumed bagged brick of coffee. 14 psi with breather will push the carbon down. You can finnise it some as you pull the vacuum. Don't be in hurry with the vacuum, use it to you advantage. With the stack of material dry there's really no rush until you infuse.
I'll take a look at your feeder and discharge and see if I can offer anything there. Not bad though...
Usual order as I did it, Carbon, peel ply with slits in it, Bleeder, Some bag material to cover the part but not into the vac area, breather then bag. If you get a leak and cannot stop it you may as well toss the part as it will be full of air.
I looked for as close to 28kg. That would give me approx 14psi of clamping pressure. The part will start resembling the vacuumed bagged brick of coffee. 14 psi with breather will push the carbon down. You can finnise it some as you pull the vacuum. Don't be in hurry with the vacuum, use it to you advantage. With the stack of material dry there's really no rush until you infuse.
I'll take a look at your feeder and discharge and see if I can offer anything there. Not bad though...
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I'm laying in dry.
Why did you use bag material under the breather?
I'm gonna re-bag tomorrow and use breather then try to pull resin through. its a med. speed resin so depending on when I get out of work maybe I can pull a part out of this thing and see what I have. The carbon is probably all pulled out of shape from messing with it so much today which means more carbon wasted.
I'm officially beyond the cost of buying a $2000 pair of carbon lights and I still have nothing to show.
This is really starting to suck!
Why did you use bag material under the breather?
I'm gonna re-bag tomorrow and use breather then try to pull resin through. its a med. speed resin so depending on when I get out of work maybe I can pull a part out of this thing and see what I have. The carbon is probably all pulled out of shape from messing with it so much today which means more carbon wasted.
I'm officially beyond the cost of buying a $2000 pair of carbon lights and I still have nothing to show.
This is really starting to suck!
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St. Jude Donor '17
Your in good company and to top it off Apsis is trying their sale again of the carbon lights @ 1499.00
I use the bag material on top of the bleeder to keep the breather from filling up with resin.
I use the bag material on top of the bleeder to keep the breather from filling up with resin.