thread pitch of lowering bolts?
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Burning Brakes
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thread pitch of lowering bolts?
Does anyone know what the thread pitch is on the factory lowering bolts? Knowing this seems like it would eliminate the guess work of how far I am lowering the car.
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Race Director
Will still be some math involved since the bolts aren't at the end of the spring. The bolt is at the near the middle of the wheel arc, not at the end of the arc. It's not like the old 2" lowering blocks gave you 2" of lowered height.
You'll need to measure from the pivot point of the spring to the bolt, then from the pivot of the spring to the bushing at the wheel, then calculate how much xx movement of the bolt will give at the wheel.
You'll need to measure from the pivot point of the spring to the bolt, then from the pivot of the spring to the bushing at the wheel, then calculate how much xx movement of the bolt will give at the wheel.
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M8 1.5 is what I think they are.
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Burning Brakes
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Burning Brakes
I think the thread is a 14x2 which would be about .078 per turn (2/25.4=.079). With the placement of the adjuster on the lower a-arm at about 80-90% of the swing distance you would get about .09-.100 inches of wheel movement per turn once the car has been driven and the pad settles. Hope that helps
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Burning Brakes
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I think the thread is a 14x2 which would be about .078 per turn (2/25.4=.079). With the placement of the adjuster on the lower a-arm at about 80-90% of the swing distance you would get about .09-.100 inches of wheel movement per turn once the car has been driven and the pad settles. Hope that helps
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You can see that the Service Manual says one turn of the bolt will give you 2mm or 0.079 inches of height change.
The Z height discussed above is the front of the car, but the adjustment of the D height in the rear has the same 2mm per turn spec.
Therefore, 3 turns is slightly less than 1/4 inch, and 4 turns is about 5/16 inch.
Like Just Enough said in his post above, you may get a little more movement if you measure out at the fender.
Forum member Gearhead Jim says in an old post in another thread: "1 turn of the bolt = about 1/4" change out at the fender lip, initially.
After a week and 500 miles of driving, the change had decreased to about 1/8". Do an alignment at this time."
He makes a good recommendation to get it aligned after you change ride height.
Bob
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After measuring mine several times and then adjusting and measuring several times again, I found that one turn of the bolt will lower the fender (measured at the top of the wheel well arch) about 1/8", after the car has settled. You may need to drive several hundred miles for the settling to finish, then get an alignment (a whole 'nuther set of numbers!)
One inch is a lot of lowering on the stock bolts, and you want to maintain approximately the front-rear relationship for aero reasons.
Many trackheads say that lowering a little is helpful, lowering a lot isn't.
One inch is a lot of lowering on the stock bolts, and you want to maintain approximately the front-rear relationship for aero reasons.
Many trackheads say that lowering a little is helpful, lowering a lot isn't.
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Racer
I think whomever lowered mine, lowered it too much. I think I read to raise it, turn bolt clockwise.....I removed the wheel, but I cannot turn the bolt. It is able to go counter clockwise about a quarter of a turn, I can turn it back. but that is all It will go. Am I doing it wrong?
Jer
Jer
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I think whomever lowered mine, lowered it too much. I think I read to raise it, turn bolt clockwise.....I removed the wheel, but I cannot turn the bolt. It is able to go counter clockwise about a quarter of a turn, I can turn it back. but that is all It will go. Am I doing it wrong?
Jer
Jer
The bolt screws in up through the leafspring, and the rubber pad bonded onto the head of the bolt sits on a web of the lower A-arm:
In order to turn the bolt you need to lift the leafspring so the rubber pad is up off the A-arm, then it should turn easily.
In the picture above, after raising the car by jacking up on the frame, I used a bottle jack to raise the leafspring to relieve the pressure from the bolt.
Bob
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Racer
Thenk you. I did not relieve the pressure. I was thinking of that , but talked myself out of it. Do you know of a video out there that show the whole process? I don't have a bottle jake right now, but I will by 10am on Monday.
Thanks and Happy Easter.
Jerry
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Thanks and Happy Easter.
Jerry
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What 1/4-20 means
20 represents the #of threads per inch so take 1.0” divide by 20 = .050 thousands of an inch so one complete turn of bolt would either raise or lower bolt by .050 of an inch ask any machinist
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20 represents the #of threads per inch so take 1.0” divide by 20 = .050 thousands of an inch so one complete turn of bolt would either raise or lower bolt by .050 of an inch ask any machinist
A single-start 20TPI bolt like an ordinary UNC ¼-20 takes 20 complete turns to move an inch.
Let's not resurrect an old thread to correct somebody who wasn't wrong in the first place.