Magnaflow Shorty Headers
07-20-2014, 12:19 AM
#1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Magnaflow Shorty Headers
Heyo! Magnaflow just came out with some shorty headers for the Ls2/3. I'm pretty excited, however they ain't cheap. I have used BBK shorty headers on my C5 and despite everyone talking **** about them, they actually performed very well and sounded great. I know many bros here are using ZO6 manifolds and are seeing 10-15RWHP gains, I'm thinking of saving up and buying the magnaflow and I expect similar gains.
I bought longtubes, but I sold them. At the time I had to sell them because I couldn't afford the install and tune because of bills. Now with the shorty's, I think I'll be able to install them myself because I did on my C5.
Anyone out there try these yet?
I don't think I'm going the LT route because I'm not a fan of the noise and I cant find a place to install them around here.
I bought longtubes, but I sold them. At the time I had to sell them because I couldn't afford the install and tune because of bills. Now with the shorty's, I think I'll be able to install them myself because I did on my C5.
Anyone out there try these yet?
I don't think I'm going the LT route because I'm not a fan of the noise and I cant find a place to install them around here.
Per their web page $877 and no mention of CARB. I'm sure if it was CARB they would have said so. That's a real selling point.
07-20-2014, 04:17 PM
#4
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
07-20-2014, 04:18 PM
#5
Melting Slicks
Member Since: Nov 2010
Location: On the east coast we drive until we die
Posts: 2,567
Likes: 0
Received 189 Likes
on
147 Posts
May I ask what you feel the benefits for you are with the shorties?
I always thought CARB approval was one of the main points of choosing shorties over LTs but it doesn't sound like these are? If you feel the Z manifolds will produce similar gains as the shorties, why not get them? You can probably find them cheaper and shouldn't have any issues with smog, inspections, etc.
You mention noise. I don't know you're sensitivity to noise, and it's purely subjective, but if you keep the stock mufflers, LTs with cats might not be that bad for you. I have LTs with cats on my LS2 truck with the stock mufflers/resonator and the sound increase is hardly noticeable. You can detect a minor increase in rumble but unless you're really on it, you wouldn't be able to tell. Granted my truck has a different stock exhaust system than the C6 but the engine is the same and I think the C6's stock exhaust is pretty tame.
You also mention install. I can't comment on that since I don't know you're abilities but it sounds as if you are willing to install the shorties/Z manifolds yourself? Do you feel the LTs are beyond you're capabilities? Perhaps you can find someone at a car show willing to help for some beer and pizza? You'd be surprised.
Not taking CARB approval into account (as it seems these might not have it anyway) and considering your concerns for power, noise, and ease of install, I think either Z manifolds or a used or cheaper brand of LTs would be money better spent. But it's your car, your money, and your choice. Good luck.
I always thought CARB approval was one of the main points of choosing shorties over LTs but it doesn't sound like these are? If you feel the Z manifolds will produce similar gains as the shorties, why not get them? You can probably find them cheaper and shouldn't have any issues with smog, inspections, etc.
You mention noise. I don't know you're sensitivity to noise, and it's purely subjective, but if you keep the stock mufflers, LTs with cats might not be that bad for you. I have LTs with cats on my LS2 truck with the stock mufflers/resonator and the sound increase is hardly noticeable. You can detect a minor increase in rumble but unless you're really on it, you wouldn't be able to tell. Granted my truck has a different stock exhaust system than the C6 but the engine is the same and I think the C6's stock exhaust is pretty tame.
You also mention install. I can't comment on that since I don't know you're abilities but it sounds as if you are willing to install the shorties/Z manifolds yourself? Do you feel the LTs are beyond you're capabilities? Perhaps you can find someone at a car show willing to help for some beer and pizza? You'd be surprised.
Not taking CARB approval into account (as it seems these might not have it anyway) and considering your concerns for power, noise, and ease of install, I think either Z manifolds or a used or cheaper brand of LTs would be money better spent. But it's your car, your money, and your choice. Good luck.
07-20-2014, 05:56 PM
#7
When I had my car tuned again after installing these and a K&N FIPK, I gained 32 HP and 35lbs of torque. Way more than I anticipated! It sounded awesome, definetely a deep, full header sound. It really pulled hard from about 2,500-6,000 RPM. I live in CA and these ARE CARB approved! A lot of folks kick around shorties, but when that's all you can do legally, they are way worth it. I got them about six years ago and they were on sale for $700. I think they are the best quality and design available too. http://www.jbaheaders.com/cat4ward.asp Take a peek and you wont be disappointed!
07-20-2014, 06:27 PM
#9
Race Director
May I ask what you feel the benefits for you are with the shorties?
I always thought CARB approval was one of the main points of choosing shorties over LTs but it doesn't sound like these are? If you feel the Z manifolds will produce similar gains as the shorties, why not get them? You can probably find them cheaper and shouldn't have any issues with smog, inspections, etc.
You mention noise. I don't know you're sensitivity to noise, and it's purely subjective, but if you keep the stock mufflers, LTs with cats might not be that bad for you. I have LTs with cats on my LS2 truck with the stock mufflers/resonator and the sound increase is hardly noticeable. You can detect a minor increase in rumble but unless you're really on it, you wouldn't be able to tell. Granted my truck has a different stock exhaust system than the C6 but the engine is the same and I think the C6's stock exhaust is pretty tame.
You also mention install. I can't comment on that since I don't know you're abilities but it sounds as if you are willing to install the shorties/Z manifolds yourself? Do you feel the LTs are beyond you're capabilities? Perhaps you can find someone at a car show willing to help for some beer and pizza? You'd be surprised.
Not taking CARB approval into account (as it seems these might not have it anyway) and considering your concerns for power, noise, and ease of install, I think either Z manifolds or a used or cheaper brand of LTs would be money better spent. But it's your car, your money, and your choice. Good luck.
I always thought CARB approval was one of the main points of choosing shorties over LTs but it doesn't sound like these are? If you feel the Z manifolds will produce similar gains as the shorties, why not get them? You can probably find them cheaper and shouldn't have any issues with smog, inspections, etc.
You mention noise. I don't know you're sensitivity to noise, and it's purely subjective, but if you keep the stock mufflers, LTs with cats might not be that bad for you. I have LTs with cats on my LS2 truck with the stock mufflers/resonator and the sound increase is hardly noticeable. You can detect a minor increase in rumble but unless you're really on it, you wouldn't be able to tell. Granted my truck has a different stock exhaust system than the C6 but the engine is the same and I think the C6's stock exhaust is pretty tame.
You also mention install. I can't comment on that since I don't know you're abilities but it sounds as if you are willing to install the shorties/Z manifolds yourself? Do you feel the LTs are beyond you're capabilities? Perhaps you can find someone at a car show willing to help for some beer and pizza? You'd be surprised.
Not taking CARB approval into account (as it seems these might not have it anyway) and considering your concerns for power, noise, and ease of install, I think either Z manifolds or a used or cheaper brand of LTs would be money better spent. But it's your car, your money, and your choice. Good luck.
07-20-2014, 07:07 PM
#10
SUBVETTE
I'd like to suggest that you also check out JBA Shorties. I had them on my LS2 GTO; I went with the Titanium Ceramic coated finish for their finish longevity, looks and also their thermal properties of keeping under hood temps low. After all this time, the finish looks same as new.
When I had my car tuned again after installing these and a K&N FIPK, I gained 32 HP and 35lbs of torque. Way more than I anticipated! It sounded awesome, definetely a deep, full header sound. It really pulled hard from about 2,500-6,000 RPM. I live in CA and these ARE CARB approved! A lot of folks kick around shorties, but when that's all you can do legally, they are way worth it. I got them about six years ago and they were on sale for $700. I think they are the best quality and design available too. http://www.jbaheaders.com/cat4ward.asp Take a peek and you wont be disappointed!
When I had my car tuned again after installing these and a K&N FIPK, I gained 32 HP and 35lbs of torque. Way more than I anticipated! It sounded awesome, definetely a deep, full header sound. It really pulled hard from about 2,500-6,000 RPM. I live in CA and these ARE CARB approved! A lot of folks kick around shorties, but when that's all you can do legally, they are way worth it. I got them about six years ago and they were on sale for $700. I think they are the best quality and design available too. http://www.jbaheaders.com/cat4ward.asp Take a peek and you wont be disappointed!
07-20-2014, 07:50 PM
#11
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
May I ask what you feel the benefits for you are with the shorties?
I always thought CARB approval was one of the main points of choosing shorties over LTs but it doesn't sound like these are? If you feel the Z manifolds will produce similar gains as the shorties, why not get them? You can probably find them cheaper and shouldn't have any issues with smog, inspections, etc.
You mention noise. I don't know you're sensitivity to noise, and it's purely subjective, but if you keep the stock mufflers, LTs with cats might not be that bad for you. I have LTs with cats on my LS2 truck with the stock mufflers/resonator and the sound increase is hardly noticeable. You can detect a minor increase in rumble but unless you're really on it, you wouldn't be able to tell. Granted my truck has a different stock exhaust system than the C6 but the engine is the same and I think the C6's stock exhaust is pretty tame.
You also mention install. I can't comment on that since I don't know you're abilities but it sounds as if you are willing to install the shorties/Z manifolds yourself? Do you feel the LTs are beyond you're capabilities? Perhaps you can find someone at a car show willing to help for some beer and pizza? You'd be surprised.
Not taking CARB approval into account (as it seems these might not have it anyway) and considering your concerns for power, noise, and ease of install, I think either Z manifolds or a used or cheaper brand of LTs would be money better spent. But it's your car, your money, and your choice. Good luck.
I always thought CARB approval was one of the main points of choosing shorties over LTs but it doesn't sound like these are? If you feel the Z manifolds will produce similar gains as the shorties, why not get them? You can probably find them cheaper and shouldn't have any issues with smog, inspections, etc.
You mention noise. I don't know you're sensitivity to noise, and it's purely subjective, but if you keep the stock mufflers, LTs with cats might not be that bad for you. I have LTs with cats on my LS2 truck with the stock mufflers/resonator and the sound increase is hardly noticeable. You can detect a minor increase in rumble but unless you're really on it, you wouldn't be able to tell. Granted my truck has a different stock exhaust system than the C6 but the engine is the same and I think the C6's stock exhaust is pretty tame.
You also mention install. I can't comment on that since I don't know you're abilities but it sounds as if you are willing to install the shorties/Z manifolds yourself? Do you feel the LTs are beyond you're capabilities? Perhaps you can find someone at a car show willing to help for some beer and pizza? You'd be surprised.
Not taking CARB approval into account (as it seems these might not have it anyway) and considering your concerns for power, noise, and ease of install, I think either Z manifolds or a used or cheaper brand of LTs would be money better spent. But it's your car, your money, and your choice. Good luck.
I have a Corsa exhaust. Don't get me wrong I'm not bothered by the sound so a great LS engine, I just prefer mine to be a bit toned down. I might still go with long tubes. Money doesn't grow on trees for me so shorty's+install+tune=rougly 1300. Longtubes+install+tune=2,000.
That's a lot of money for me at this point in my life. I would prefer the Magnaflow over the Z's because appearance, material and I wouldn't have to change the cats etc.
Thanks
07-20-2014, 08:43 PM
#12
Team Owner
Long tubes are cake to install. They don't take any special equipment.
07-20-2014, 10:51 PM
#13
Melting Slicks
07-20-2014, 11:39 PM
#14
07-20-2014, 11:44 PM
#15
If they are CARB approved then anybody can run them, including those of us stuck with CARB rules. The Z06 manifolds are NOT original C6 and aren't legal. 15HP with CARB shorties (with original cats in the original positions) or 15HP w/Z06 non approved? I'll take the CARB headers please.
07-21-2014, 12:57 AM
#16
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
07-21-2014, 09:18 AM
#17
Race Director
That is curious about the Z06 manifolds and not being CARB approved. I've known a couple of people in my Corvette Club in Santa Clara that ran them and didn't have any difficulties with passing smog. Since they are a stock item, but from another model, can they really tell by the visual inspection? I'd think the inspector would really have to know the Corvettes like nobody's business. What is the hang up to get caught with them in CA? Being they're OK to run on the Z06? I'm very curious to know? Anybody??
I know a lot of people that speed every time they drive that never get a ticket. Does that mean it's legal to speed?
All it takes is one "by the book" Inspector and the Z06 manifolds won't pass. CARB requires"original cats in original position". Since the Z06 cats aren't original to a C6 and aren't in the C6 original position they won't pass.
07-21-2014, 05:56 PM
#18
If they are CARB approved then anybody can run them, including those of us stuck with CARB rules. The Z06 manifolds are NOT original C6 and aren't legal. 15HP with CARB shorties (with original cats in the original positions) or 15HP w/Z06 non approved? I'll take the CARB headers please.
07-22-2014, 12:04 AM
#20
I know a lot of people that speed every time they drive that never get a ticket. Does that mean it's legal to speed?
All it takes is one "by the book" Inspector and the Z06 manifolds won't pass. CARB requires"original cats in original position". Since the Z06 cats aren't original to a C6 and aren't in the C6 original position they won't pass.
All it takes is one "by the book" Inspector and the Z06 manifolds won't pass. CARB requires"original cats in original position". Since the Z06 cats aren't original to a C6 and aren't in the C6 original position they won't pass.
