Tire wear/psi update results
#1
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Tire wear/psi update results
First off my initial depth testing was done with 3,225 miles driven on a new set of S0-4 Pole Positions. They came with 10/32 tread depth, not measured by me but are the listed specs.
Tire psi was 30-32 HOT. the cold pressure was between 27-28 psi.
I will not complicate this with all the depth readings either before or after my pressure change.
Now 2,200 miles later after running 34-35 HOT my readings look like this.
LF and RF and RR read all the same as previously except for the second rib in and each showed 1/32 more wear. This was the only variation between these three tires.
I took 4 reading across each tire using each rib.
The LR showed 1/32 more wear on ribs 2,3,and 4. This is reading from outside to inner. The outer rib remained unchanged.
I know this isn't many miles to compare and it still took me 8 months just to drive the 2,200 miles.
My reads as follows:
-.08* -.08* L-R front camber
7.9* 8.0* L-R front caster
.05* .05* L-R front toe
-.05* -.05* L-R rear camber
-.02* -.01* L-R rear toe
I am a little concerned with the front toe, I would like to see it like the rear.
I lied sorry, here are the 32nd reading across all 4 ribs showing the tire tread depth.
First reading with 3,225 miles:
LF 7,9,9,8. RF 7,9,9,8. again in 32nds.
LR 7,8,9,8. RR 7,8,9,8. " "
Now the latest readings after 2,200 miles and increase of approx 3 lbs psi. to 30 cold or 34 HOT.
LF 7,(8),9,8. RF 7,(8),9,8.
LR 7,(7),(8),(7). RR 7,(7),9,8.
( ) equal a change from initial depth reading after the first 3,225 miles.. When reading the gauge I rounded off to the nearest 32nd so this could be the anomaly in the LR readings being different....OR ?
Seeing as how the outer depth across all 4 tires did not change I think the increase psi helped here but ti might have taken some tread on the 2nd rib in. on all 4 tires.
The LR just has me puzzled.
I plan on keeping the tires at 30 psi cold for another year. I do adjust all year around as the outside temps fluctuate.
Any thoughts?
I think the initial low psi caused some accelerated wear on the outside with hard corning. I drive aggressively in the turns but do not put down rubber accelerating. I do exhibit the occasional romp through a couple of gears. I have 4:10 diff. and have a tune and Z06 manifold system.
Tire psi was 30-32 HOT. the cold pressure was between 27-28 psi.
I will not complicate this with all the depth readings either before or after my pressure change.
Now 2,200 miles later after running 34-35 HOT my readings look like this.
LF and RF and RR read all the same as previously except for the second rib in and each showed 1/32 more wear. This was the only variation between these three tires.
I took 4 reading across each tire using each rib.
The LR showed 1/32 more wear on ribs 2,3,and 4. This is reading from outside to inner. The outer rib remained unchanged.
I know this isn't many miles to compare and it still took me 8 months just to drive the 2,200 miles.
My reads as follows:
-.08* -.08* L-R front camber
7.9* 8.0* L-R front caster
.05* .05* L-R front toe
-.05* -.05* L-R rear camber
-.02* -.01* L-R rear toe
I am a little concerned with the front toe, I would like to see it like the rear.
I lied sorry, here are the 32nd reading across all 4 ribs showing the tire tread depth.
First reading with 3,225 miles:
LF 7,9,9,8. RF 7,9,9,8. again in 32nds.
LR 7,8,9,8. RR 7,8,9,8. " "
Now the latest readings after 2,200 miles and increase of approx 3 lbs psi. to 30 cold or 34 HOT.
LF 7,(8),9,8. RF 7,(8),9,8.
LR 7,(7),(8),(7). RR 7,(7),9,8.
( ) equal a change from initial depth reading after the first 3,225 miles.. When reading the gauge I rounded off to the nearest 32nd so this could be the anomaly in the LR readings being different....OR ?
Seeing as how the outer depth across all 4 tires did not change I think the increase psi helped here but ti might have taken some tread on the 2nd rib in. on all 4 tires.
The LR just has me puzzled.
I plan on keeping the tires at 30 psi cold for another year. I do adjust all year around as the outside temps fluctuate.
Any thoughts?
I think the initial low psi caused some accelerated wear on the outside with hard corning. I drive aggressively in the turns but do not put down rubber accelerating. I do exhibit the occasional romp through a couple of gears. I have 4:10 diff. and have a tune and Z06 manifold system.
Last edited by Boomer111; 08-28-2014 at 08:38 PM.
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It does appear that the lower initial pressure may have caused more wear. Tires, pressure, suspension, etc. are always a compromise between factors like handling, noise, tire life, stopping, ride quality, etc.
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I was using Evil Twins suggestion of running 30 Hot.
Changed to 30 cold.
I was interested in any difference in wear.
I do think the lower pressure wore the edge more while cornering though.
I also think the LR wear is attributed to bottoming out and contact with the liner. This is another matter though.
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First off my initial depth testing was done with 3,225 miles driven on a new set of S0-4 Pole Positions. They came with 10/32 tread depth, not measured by me but are the listed specs.
Tire psi was 30-32 HOT. the cold pressure was between 27-28 psi.
I will not complicate this with all the depth readings either before or after my pressure change.
Now 2,200 miles later after running 34-35 HOT my readings look like this.
LF and RF and RR read all the same as previously except for the second rib in and each showed 1/32 more wear. This was the only variation between these three tires.
I took 4 reading across each tire using each rib.
The LR showed 1/32 more wear on ribs 2,3,and 4. This is reading from outside to inner. The outer rib remained unchanged.
I know this isn't many miles to compare and it still took me 8 months just to drive the 2,200 miles.
My reads as follows:
-.08* -.08* L-R front camber
7.9* 8.0* L-R front caster
.05* .05* L-R front toe
-.05* -.05* L-R rear camber
-.02* -.01* L-R rear toe
I am a little concerned with the front toe, I would like to see it like the rear.
I lied sorry, here are the 32nd reading across all 4 ribs showing the tire tread depth.
First reading with 3,225 miles:
LF 7,9,9,8. RF 7,9,9,8. again in 32nds.
LR 7,8,9,8. RR 7,8,9,8. " "
Now the latest readings after 2,200 miles and increase of approx 3 lbs psi. to 30 cold or 34 HOT.
LF 7,(8),9,8. RF 7,(8),9,8.
LR 7,(7),(8),(7). RR 7,(7),9,8.
( ) equal a change from initial depth reading after the first 3,225 miles.. When reading the gauge I rounded off to the nearest 32nd so this could be the anomaly in the LR readings being different....OR ?
Seeing as how the outer depth across all 4 tires did not change I think the increase psi helped here but ti might have taken some tread on the 2nd rib in. on all 4 tires.
The LR just has me puzzled.
I plan on keeping the tires at 30 psi cold for another year. I do adjust all year around as the outside temps fluctuate.
Any thoughts?
I think the initial low psi caused some accelerated wear on the outside with hard corning. I drive aggressively in the turns but do not put down rubber accelerating. I do exhibit the occasional romp through a couple of gears. I have 4:10 diff. and have a tune and Z06 manifold system.
Tire psi was 30-32 HOT. the cold pressure was between 27-28 psi.
I will not complicate this with all the depth readings either before or after my pressure change.
Now 2,200 miles later after running 34-35 HOT my readings look like this.
LF and RF and RR read all the same as previously except for the second rib in and each showed 1/32 more wear. This was the only variation between these three tires.
I took 4 reading across each tire using each rib.
The LR showed 1/32 more wear on ribs 2,3,and 4. This is reading from outside to inner. The outer rib remained unchanged.
I know this isn't many miles to compare and it still took me 8 months just to drive the 2,200 miles.
My reads as follows:
-.08* -.08* L-R front camber
7.9* 8.0* L-R front caster
.05* .05* L-R front toe
-.05* -.05* L-R rear camber
-.02* -.01* L-R rear toe
I am a little concerned with the front toe, I would like to see it like the rear.
I lied sorry, here are the 32nd reading across all 4 ribs showing the tire tread depth.
First reading with 3,225 miles:
LF 7,9,9,8. RF 7,9,9,8. again in 32nds.
LR 7,8,9,8. RR 7,8,9,8. " "
Now the latest readings after 2,200 miles and increase of approx 3 lbs psi. to 30 cold or 34 HOT.
LF 7,(8),9,8. RF 7,(8),9,8.
LR 7,(7),(8),(7). RR 7,(7),9,8.
( ) equal a change from initial depth reading after the first 3,225 miles.. When reading the gauge I rounded off to the nearest 32nd so this could be the anomaly in the LR readings being different....OR ?
Seeing as how the outer depth across all 4 tires did not change I think the increase psi helped here but ti might have taken some tread on the 2nd rib in. on all 4 tires.
The LR just has me puzzled.
I plan on keeping the tires at 30 psi cold for another year. I do adjust all year around as the outside temps fluctuate.
Any thoughts?
I think the initial low psi caused some accelerated wear on the outside with hard corning. I drive aggressively in the turns but do not put down rubber accelerating. I do exhibit the occasional romp through a couple of gears. I have 4:10 diff. and have a tune and Z06 manifold system.
When you have driven enough to get the tire temps up. Quickly pull off the road and starting with the one of the front tires quickly take the three measurements across the tread of each tire. You only have a minute or so before the surface temp of the tires starts to cool so you need to move fast. Once you get everything recorded you may be able to see what if anything needs to be corrected.
Bill
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Thanks Bill I am just to cheap to buy a temp probe. I looked into it already. No track time so I figured the depth gauge over some time would have to suffice.
So you would recommended leaving the front toe as is?
So you would recommended leaving the front toe as is?