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Old 10-26-2014, 06:07 PM
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Default Front wheels "skip" when turning sharp ... traction control issue?

My front wheels "skip" a couple times when making a hard turn into a parking spot. It is very obvious to the point that passengers have mentioned it. Occurs primarily at work where our paved parking lot is deteriorating so has a fair amount of "gravel" on top of it. Its a hard right with a slight uphill grade. It has happened a couple other times (I know once was a left turn and even heard slight tire chirp) and perhaps was also "slippery" parking lot conditions but otherwise it does not happen most the time. Never did this in my C5 in same parking lot. I need to test with traction control off but keep forgetting to turn it off. Sound like a traction control problem or similar or perhaps just normal with the geometries and loose gravel?
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Mine too
Old 10-26-2014, 07:01 PM
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Normal.

Due to suspension design each front tire is taking a slightly different arc.
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It's call wheel hop, and it is normal, and expected with such wide tires. What haljensen said, too.
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I try to avoid turning super sharp because of this issue.
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Actually it is wheel skip which occurs mostly with wide front tires and sharp radius turns. Wheel hop occurs when drive wheels and tires excessively repeatedly break traction.
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Originally Posted by saplumr
Actually it is wheel skip which occurs mostly with wide front tires and sharp radius turns. Wheel hop occurs when drive wheels and tires excessively repeatedly break traction.
Interesting to hear the distinction. Thanks for the clarification.
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rest assured--it is designed that way and functioning properly. It is due to steering geometry as posted above. Relax and enjoy
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackermann_steering_geometry


As already stated, completely normal...........
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Turn wheels in direction you want to go. Raise RPMs to 3500. Dump clutch. Turn complete with no front wheel scrubbing.

But really, what everyone else said. It's normal with large front tires.
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Nature of the beast. I've found out that if you turn the wheel in the other direction for just a second it seems to reset itself and lets you finish your turn.
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Thanks everyone. I had also kinda written it off as normal but been in the back of my mind since in warranty and my coworkers keep bringing it up, especially one who had similar on a Toyota 4 Runner and it was the traction control doing weird things but it really shook the steering wheel a lot in his case. Plus, its the only vehicle I have even driven that does this but I understand the geometries a bit so honestly surprised more have not done this.
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Originally Posted by AZvetteman
Thanks everyone. I had also kinda written it off as normal but been in the back of my mind since in warranty and my coworkers keep bringing it up, especially one who had similar on a Toyota 4 Runner and it was the traction control doing weird things but it really shook the steering wheel a lot in his case. Plus, its the only vehicle I have even driven that does this but I understand the geometries a bit so honestly surprised more have not done this.
Normal and there isn't anything wrong with the car. C5s did it as well. At least the same question is asked over and over in those forums. My two C5s did it for the 12 years I owned them.

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I'm not sure why everyone keeps mentioning that it's normal because of wide front tires - I don't think our front tires are very wide to begin with, and I've certainly ran larger front tires on many other cars that didn't do this. I think it's more solely due to the suspension design as illustrated and explained above.

I find it mildly amusing when I'm slowly pulling into parking spots and my tires are squealing like I'm out of control.. : ). our parking lot at work is a smooth surface so there is plenty of tire squeal. ha
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Thanks for the info everyone, i just upgraded to a 2010 grand sport and have the same issue. I definitely have wider tires on this one than i had on the 05 which didn't have this issue.
It sounds like the axle is about to break. Any chance it could cause damage in the long run?

Thanks
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It's mentioned in that little book that comes in the glove compartment.....
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Originally Posted by tracy
it's mentioned in that little book that comes in the glove compartment.....

book???...what book??? :d:d:d

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I think most new C6 owners got nervous the first time they heard this skipping of the tires while turning hard over at slow speed.

Thankfully, it is always well explained on this forum, that it is perfectly normal.
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Originally Posted by Tracy
It's mentioned in that little book that comes in the glove compartment.....
No such thing exists. Reading that "book" is like asking directions when your lost. Don't do it.. your only admitting defeat if you do either. Guessing is so much more fun
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Default Front tire alignment

Our C6 Grand Sport had the same issue. That is a somewhat aggresive wheel alignment from the factory. Which by the way tends to wear out the inside of the front tires.

When I replaced all 4 tires I had the GS realigned with a less aggresive set-up.
I autocrossed the GS with this set-up and found it to be better for turn-in control and cornering. At least to my skills.


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