C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Suspension issue

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-28-2015, 09:05 PM
  #1  
Woodstoc
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
Woodstoc's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2001
Location: Woodforest
Posts: 852
Received 39 Likes on 30 Posts

Default Suspension issue

I am running one size over tires on my GS. I really like how they fill the wells, looks a lot better, and has not been an issue with handling or cornering. I now have about 38000 miles on the car, and recently I started hearing a bit of a rub in the passenger side front on agressive turns to the left.

I checked the ride height today and found the passenger side 1/2" lower than the drivers side. I had everything lowered on stock bolts and I set up the fronts the same right after I bought the car.

It took raising the passenger 1/2" to bring the front end back level. Checked and have no visible issues with the arms, bushings, spring, etc.
It's really bugging me to see the difference in the adjustments on the two sides.

Can a mono spring have one side get weaker than the other? Doesn't make sense. The only other thing I can think of is the bushing on the lowering bolts collapsing on one side. Hard to see without tearing stuff apart so that could be it. Any other ideas from the brethren?

Last edited by Woodstoc; 03-28-2015 at 09:08 PM. Reason: Stupid spell correct
Old 03-29-2015, 03:42 AM
  #2  
Dano523
Race Director
 
Dano523's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2013
Posts: 11,318
Received 3,020 Likes on 2,175 Posts

Default

If the GS was corner balanced, do not touch a thing!!!!!

If not corner balanced,

Starting point is with the fender lips to the ground (with the car on level ground), and the back fender lips should be .9" higher than the front fender lips to the ground. So if the fronts are 10", the back should be 10.9" to the ground.
Note, if you have a base model, then the back end should be 1-1/2" higher than the fronts/ The fenders lips are different from a base model to a wide body.

Next, since the fenders are not always mounted square to the frame, start checking the frame points to the ground side to side, then re-adjust (don't use the .9" here), just get the fronts the same, the backs the same, then go check the fender lips again to make sure that the back fender lips are averaging .9" more than the front fender lips to the ground.

As for the factory ride height adjustment pads, then can wear over time, but on the after market units, there pads wear out very quickly instead. So if you are sporting after market adjusters, the pads on them may be cooked already.

Last edited by Dano523; 03-29-2015 at 03:48 AM.
Old 03-29-2015, 10:09 AM
  #3  
C U IN REARVEIW
Le Mans Master
 
C U IN REARVEIW's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2009
Location: ocean springs mississippi
Posts: 5,656
Received 110 Likes on 101 Posts

Default

Also have someone else measure while you are in the drivers seat as that side will lower a bit due to added weight. Car may be level at that point. Then corner balance if desired.
Old 03-29-2015, 10:27 AM
  #4  
Woodstoc
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
Woodstoc's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2001
Location: Woodforest
Posts: 852
Received 39 Likes on 30 Posts

Default

Thanks for the excellent pic comparison. I kept the stock bolts and did not cut the bushings. I'll climb back under and see if it looks like the bushings are equal, side to side. That is interesting about the fenders not being mounted the same, I never thought of that because the lines on my car were well done. I'll try frame points.

I did have the drivers side set a 1/4" higher due to my weight as an estimation, but never had someone else measure while I was in there. Good point, thanks.

My main concern was the sudden change. I had it right, then I started hearing the tire rub against the fender well on hard left turns. Something changed, have to figure out if something on the passenger side worn, or shifted.
Old 03-29-2015, 02:13 PM
  #5  
HOXXOH
Race Director
 
HOXXOH's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: Peoria/Phoenix AZ
Posts: 16,555
Received 2,061 Likes on 1,505 Posts
C6 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019

Default

Originally Posted by C U IN REARVEIW
Also have someone else measure while you are in the drivers seat as that side will lower a bit due to added weight. Car may be level at that point. Then corner balance if desired.
To even be more exacting, the fuel level should be halfway between full and the amount remaining at the time of a normal re-fuel.

I read many years ago that GM used a 5'9" 175# dummy in the driver's seat to create all the affected dimensions and settings. I don't know if that still exists, but with Vettes being primarily driven by older (and fatter ) men, maybe they currently do things to fit the average customer of each product.
Old 03-29-2015, 07:10 PM
  #6  
hungryhippo
Drifting
 
hungryhippo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2009
Location: Benicia CA
Posts: 1,309
Received 56 Likes on 49 Posts

Default

Its most likely the stock bushing getting deformed from hard driving.
Old 04-01-2015, 06:29 PM
  #7  
Woodstoc
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
Woodstoc's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2001
Location: Woodforest
Posts: 852
Received 39 Likes on 30 Posts

Default

I was by informed by a dealership that the stock bushings are a "part of the spring" , not sold separately. What a crock, GM trying to hose Corvette owners for what is apparently a wear item.

Anyone know of a source for a good replacement? I do not want to lower the car due to the 295/35's I put on the car. My pads look to be hosed. I hear bad things about how the Pdfat's last.
Old 04-01-2015, 06:58 PM
  #8  
C U IN REARVEIW
Le Mans Master
 
C U IN REARVEIW's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2009
Location: ocean springs mississippi
Posts: 5,656
Received 110 Likes on 101 Posts

Default

I'm running 305/30/19's on the rear heavily lowered w/o any rubbing. Have you considered going to coilovers? One of my best mods to date. Transforms the car
Old 04-04-2015, 08:45 PM
  #9  
icntdrv55
Burning Brakes
 
icntdrv55's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2013
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 865
Received 25 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Woodstoc
I do not want to lower the car due to the 295/35's I put on the car.
Originally Posted by C U IN REARVEIW
I'm running 305/30/19's on the rear heavily lowered w/o any rubbing.
Pretty sure the OP is talking about the fronts.
Old 04-04-2015, 08:55 PM
  #10  
timd38
Race Director
 
timd38's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Location: Hudson WI
Posts: 13,598
Received 181 Likes on 162 Posts
NCM Sinkhole Donor

Default

Originally Posted by C U IN REARVEIW
I'm running 305/30/19's on the rear heavily lowered w/o any rubbing.
Same here.

Get notified of new replies

To Suspension issue




Quick Reply: Suspension issue



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:12 PM.