UmX

So drove around sub in 1st and 2nd was fine. Decided to go on the main road went thru 1st 2nd shifting at like 2000 2500ish. Go for 3rd bitch grinds like I tried to kill it. Like it wasn't lined up or something.. lose the clutch so got no clutch. Drift into yazaki.pushing on clutch pedal got nothing. Push it to the floor. Clutch back but engagement point really high on the pedal now. So I get it home. Bleed the clutch more. Like a whole bottle thru it.go back out. Was easy on it shifting no problems. So I get hard on it like 4500 shift. Goes fine. Go in a parking to turn around. All hard as **** to shift at higher rpms again

And I made sure it was lined up when i pushed the torque tube back in..

So Idk what that was .. any ideas?

russ472

did you check the bearings in the torque tube when you had it taken apart?

UmX

No sir. Didn't even think to..

russ472

saw your earlier post but didnt chime in. wondering if the bearings are bad and not keeping the input shaft centered? or wait a minute..... did you leave the pilot bearing out?

sevinn

You have worse luck than me. I hope you get this solved once and for all so you can enjoy the car again.

schpenxel

Pilot bearing keeps the end of the input shaft centered. Even if torque tube bearings were fried he wouldn't have these symptoms.

UmX

Pilot bearing was in. Bc when I installed the flywheel to the motor it would of just fell off the back of the block.

With out the pilot bearing.. when i stuck the flywheel to the back of the motor it would of never stayed in.. since the pilot bearings kinda holds it.. But ya its def in their.. So idk what the f is going on

I ran another bottle of dot 4 thru the line last night.. maybe air still in there? But that grinding sound makes me hella concerned..

UmX

Only pic i have ..

UmX

I have a mcleod rxt with a steel fly wheel prob 1500 miles on it.. Drove fine before the motor blew up..

Could it be the clutch? Syncros? Trans? Drive shaft lol.. I am still on a learning curve.

schpenxel

That is completely wrong. The pilot bearing does not center the flywheel or hold it in place. There is a lip machined into the crank that centers the flywheel.

I can't really see a pilot bearing in that picture but that doesn't mean there isn't one in there.

There are two styles of pilot bearings. A small needle bearing one and a larger ball bearing one. Mine is a 2005 and has the larger style.

Needle bearing style:


Ball bearing style:


Both


Here's what it looks like without a bearing installed

UmX

Ill have to check with the engine builder tomorrow then.. It would be on the motor not on the flywheel right? Lets say there isnt one in there.. could that be causing the issues?

UmX

here is a pic of when i pulled the motor. before i took off the flywheel - now when i removed the flywheel should that bearing stayed on the flywheel?

UmX

Well i went to the garage and look what i found




Engine builder next pulled it and installed it..

russ472

that bearing stays inside the crank snout, so no... it wont come out when you remove the flywheel.
Now when handling the engine, if the bearing is worn and had a somewhat loose fit, it could have fallen out. I would assume if you had any crank work done, the machine shop would have automatically removed it.

UmX

Did u see the above pic ? Idk if you missed it..
gonna have to go by the engine builder tomorrow.

russ472

you posted that as I was writing a reply, so no i didnt see it until afterwards. but the bearing is definately still in the crank you found in the garage.

question is, did he install a new one before putting it back together.

UmX

The engine builder built my short block together.. Only thing i installed was my heads and upper intake and was ready to go.(least I thought).. So new crank was installed by him

russ472

so...based off of what you are saying, the engine builder just built the shortblock and was completed by yourself and i am assuming you installed the engine yourself as well.

the engine builder would NOT have installed the pilot bearing during a short block build.

so unless you (engine installer) remembers putting that bearing in there, looks like its gotta come apart again.

UmX

Its def not installed in there.. I mean you would think these people would say hey there is no pilot bearing u need one.. why I am paying them bc i dont know this stuff.

schpenxel

Looks like you got answers already, but yeah, that bearing is a royal pain to get out without a bearing puller. Doubt it's falling out.

And yes it installs in crank. Gl with it.