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Old 11-27-2015, 02:55 PM
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Hi all:
I just had a strange situation I am hoping I can get some advice on. Just tried to strat my 06 vert, and all the electronics seemed normal for a few seconds. I pushed the start button and everything went dead. I got out of the car, closed the door, and it locked immediately. Now I can't get back in, and have no idea what's wrong. I replaced the battery 6 months ago, and it has acted fine until today. two questions:
1: Any idea what the problem could be?
2: Is there any way to get in the car with the doors locked and the remote not working?
Old 11-27-2015, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by c12543
1: Any idea what the problem could be?
2: Is there any way to get in the car with the doors locked and the remote not working?
Could be bad "new" battery OR bad connection at the battery or starter.

Get in using the old fashion hard key in the lock above the license plate.
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You are soooo screwed!
Do you have a key? Use it in the lock by the license plate.
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If You have no key you can lift and support right front wheel / end of car.

slide under and connect +charger cable to starter solenoid + connection. The ground cable anywhere on frame W/good ground contact.

Then charge battery....... W/fob in car (depending where) door should be able to be opened.

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Originally Posted by ruxvette
You are soooo screwed!
Do you have a key? Use it in the lock by the license plate.
Originally Posted by HK770
If You have no key you can lift and support right front wheel / end of car.

slide under and connect +charger cable to starter solenoid + connection. The ground cable anywhere on frame W/good ground contact.

Then charge battery....... W/fob in car (depending where) door should be able to be opened.
These 2 covered it. If you don't have the metal key you could get one cut by a dealer with your VIN, and proof of ownership.

The last ditch effort would be to try and slip something passed the window and down to the emergency latch next to the seat and pop the door open that way. Only if the other 2 options don't work.
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The dealer can cut a new "trunk" key on the spot. Total cost is about $12 (yes, $12.). The key hole is facing down, right next to the license plate light.

Once you get the trunk open, there's a cable on the driver side wheel well that is connected to the door latch. Pull on it and the door will come unlatched enough to open it (will still require a little effort as the window won't roll down without power..)

My bet is on the connectors on the battery cables. Mine has done this more than a few times.. I was able to wiggle and push the battery cables around enough where they connect to the battery to get it to work when it happened for a while..

Finally replaced the connectors with aftermarket ones and have not had a problem since.

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Originally Posted by RicK T
Could be bad "new" battery OR bad connection at the battery or starter.

Get in using the old fashion hard key in the lock above the license plate.
got it, thanks!
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
The dealer can cut a new "trunk" key on the spot. Total cost is about $12 (yes, $12.). The key hole is facing down, right next to the license plate light.

Once you get the trunk open, there's a cable on the driver side wheel well that is connected to the door latch. Pull on it and the door will come unlatched enough to open it (will still require a little effort as the window won't roll down without power..)

My bet is on the connectors on the battery cables. Mine has done this more than a few times.. I was able to wiggle and push the battery cables around enough where they connect to the battery to get it to work when it happened for a while..

Finally replaced the connectors with aftermarket ones and have not had a problem since.
good info, thanks!
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Ever determine what caused this? I went to start my 06 this mornning and as soon as the starter kicked in everything went completely dead (no power at all). I had to use the pull lever to open the door. I popped the hood and before i could even touch anything the power came back on and i was able to start the car. What could it be?
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Found problem. Battery connectors from car don't clamp down on battery posts.. Need a spacer.
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Connectors weren't tight on mine either. I chopped them off and replaced them with aftermarket pieces. No issues since and higher voltage showing on DIC all the time
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Originally Posted by mfoti
Found problem. Battery connectors from car don't clamp down on battery posts.. Need a spacer.
Having retired from a battery company, I would recommend that you replace the cable end.
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Originally Posted by mfoti
Found problem. Battery connectors from car don't clamp down on battery posts.. Need a spacer.
I'm guessing you need the special cone nuts to properly tighten the clamps on the posts.
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Mine had damn hear degraded to nothing left.. I bought new ones and found the new ones weren't much sturdier. Very cheap feeling, so that's why I went with aftermarket ones instead.
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
Mine had damn hear degraded to nothing left.. I bought new ones and found the new ones weren't much sturdier. Very cheap feeling, so that's why I went with aftermarket ones instead.
The OE cable ends are from Korea. If you notice the nut faces up. The reason for that is ergonomics. The line worker can work top down instead of on the side to tighten the cable end.

Worthless information, but it really is the truth.
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That doesn't surprise me..

The part that bothers me the most is my truck has a similar design with the nuts on the top.. but it is MUCH heavier duty/sturdier. I really wish they would have used that design on the Corvette clamps as well
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
That doesn't surprise me..

The part that bothers me the most is my truck has a similar design with the nuts on the top.. but it is MUCH heavier duty/sturdier. I really wish they would have used that design on the Corvette clamps as well
I am not so sure if it is a question of heavy duty vs. just sized properly. I am maxed out on the nut torque but the connector still spins on the post. If the post were slightly larger OR the connectors slightly smaller i would assume it would be secure. Funny thing is that my buddies Nissan truck had the same issue.

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This must be a common problem. Post shims $1.69 at autozone

http://www.autozone.com/batteries-st...er/257147_0_0/
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Originally Posted by mfoti
This must be a common problem. Post shims $1.69 at autozone

http://www.autozone.com/batteries-st...er/257147_0_0/
The issue is that once the metal gets stretched, it also fatigues, so it will break, and you know it break when are far from home.

Just my opinion based on many tears in the battery business.

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