Proud Owner

Dennis, I am somewhat new to the Vette world. I did see your link to your N/A times on the other forum. Very nice times. I would love to get into the 10s and then stop. The wife has a way of controlling me. I am concerned of the hydrolocking comments I have been reading. I am in a 2012 Grand Sport about to do a Cam/Torque Converter.

sevinn

Don't drive through water that approaches the fog lights and you won't hydrolock it.

dennis50nj

I live in the north east south jersey, lots of thunder storms and down pours deep puddles, I have hit them at speed and filter is dry, just dont drive threw any deep washouts streams or lakes, if it looks deep try to avoid or what and check, stuff like that would drown out the stock or any intake. just use common sense

Proud Owner

Has anyone put up one of these CAIs next to a stock intake? Reason I ask is that these manufacturers stretch #s big time. I have seen claims by manufacturers of 30 HP on 4 cylinders. At moment I have a drop in AFE dry filter. And for $500 that is probably where I will stay.

dennis50nj

I ran stock to vararam within a 10ft DA difference and gained 5/10 5 mph if i remember correctly 12.90 to 12.38

Proud Owner

Your times in your sig in other forum? That was with NOS?

dennis50nj

NO the car ran 10.62 bolt/ons only, the car ran 10.16 NA on an easy launch and back peddling with full size battery me at 293 nakid so 306 pounds dressed to race in the cold, track prep sucked bottle removed and the noids, tommyd who does the performance list was their to inspect car each pass, I have never ran the car at the track with nitrous or on a street race, I dialed the kit in on the street with 3 full passes to about half mile letting it shift into fourth, so I could log the test runs and check the tune and set fuel pressure and jets and read plugs, all was perfect when done with no need to pull timing or change everyday driving tune that ii race with, If I had to guess I would say low 9s high 8s with 125 shot, but thats just a guess.

Proud Owner

Well then, that is impressive. Do you remember your mod list from those runs?

Suns_PSD

I think that that vendors that have something to offer in the way of technical advice don't bother because of responses like yours. He is not trying to sell anything, he's offering actually measured evidence.
This issue is not settled. Just because a lot of people happen to run the Vararam on the fast list, does not mean that it's absolutely the best system, just the most popular. Now if someone that tested often such as yourself ran them back to back, that would be pretty good evidence. But you have not done that. The fact that you are exceptional at running down the quarter mile is not proof that it's the best intake either.
I would not say that I have drank the Dsteck Kool Aid lol, I would say that I would love to hear the evidence and balance that versus the cost and make a decision from there. The fact that Dave is going to test both on my actual car is pretty compelling.
We also have had another member say that even at 185 mph with the Vararam, They are still just below 1.00 MAP, that suggest absolutely no ram air effect.

dennis50nj

yes bolt/ons 10.62 braile 11 lb battery mt 275x40x17 kooks longtube 1 3/4 headers kooks highflow cats and x pipe 2.5 inch ported fast 90 intake vararam ported throttle body underdrive pully electric waterpump 373 gears 3800 vigilante converter corsa sportscat back 160 high flow stat and cartek fan module and front skinnies passenger seat out, its a fully loaded 2005 with navigation heated seats. 10.16 pass was cartek ported heads cartek specked cam and yank converter 3800PA and all the above bolt/ons and 275x40x17 hoosiers

dennis50nj

but a dyno test doesnt do it for me, controlled and same tune with the maff adjusting not a tuner, as long as the passes are done within a 10 ft DA, doesnt even have to be same day, and that was done on a car that didnt spin, so that wasnt a factor, also, it needs the vette air to be closer to equal now thats more money, the reason the vararam works is because you can read the iat drops when you start the car you dont need to get up to speed, so you are feeding cooler air to the fuel mixture sooner, even if you tune for the timing and iat, you cant get the colder are as fast with any other cai, if you got 100 chevy sparks and 10 C6'S run faster does that really mean they aren't faster

Proud Owner

I guess my next question would be how different is the 2005 auto gearing? Because the Auto in my Grand Sport is pretty aggressive gearing.

dennis50nj

my 4l65 with 373 gears is about the same as your a6 with 256 gears1, 2 and 3 its very close with the advantage to the 4l65 in the 1/4 but not by much it goes back and fourth with the gear i think i have the advantage in first you in second me in third if i remember correctly but could be wrong

Proud Owner

I had the gearing for the Auto trans for the Grand Sport the other day. Just went looking for it and got lost in the search. Anyway I think I am going to stick with my AFE dry filter. I just do not think that either of these CAIs can justify the $500 at my power level.

dennis50nj

If you read the c6 performance list thread you will see my only mods was a cartek fan module and tune and 160 stat and corsa sports when i put the vararam on and gained 5/10 5mph, find a used one

Proud Owner

Going cam and Torque Converter. Any more money will be for S/C.

emoFTW

Well... There's definitely some interesting data in here lol.

dennis50nj

if your going charger forget the vararam

Suns_PSD

Well, you might be able to purchase my brand new Vararam and pre-cut radiator shroud for about half that amount before the week is up.

Even if the airboxes make the same power, I prefer the design of the Halltech personally.

Proud Owner

Let me know.