Can you supercharge or turbo charge an automatic ?
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Can you supercharge or turbo charge an automatic ?
Was curious can you charge or boost an automatic.I know there are Mercedes that are but I was seriously wondering if my car fails to catch and upshift even at the slightest spin of the tire in paddle mode , how would it handle the increase in power and secondly if you left it in automatic without being able to control the gears, wouldn't it just red line the **** out of the motor, upon spooling or charging in either mode ? Someone please break this down for me.( I drive an 08 C6 auto 6 speed with paddles)
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I supercharged my '08 Mustang the Fall of 2014. Factory automatic transmission and she did just fine. The limited slip differential and the 3.73 rear gears were done by a garage months before. The supercharger I did myself.
Forgot to mention - special tune to maximize the AT. Had a lot of fun.
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Forgot to mention - special tune to maximize the AT. Had a lot of fun.
- JKHolman
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Was curious can you charge or boost an automatic.I know there are Mercedes that are but I was seriously wondering if my car fails to catch and upshift even at the slightest spin of the tire in paddle mode , how would it handle the increase in power and secondly if you left it in automatic without being able to control the gears, wouldn't it just red line the **** out of the motor, upon spooling or charging in either mode ? Someone please break this down for me.( I drive an 08 C6 auto 6 speed with paddles)
Yes the transmission tune needs some work and an A6 isn't going to survive 1000rwhp at a drag strip.. but they hold up well enough if tuned right
The issues with when they shift, etc. is all in tuning and can be adjusted. Even without the SC the factory transmission tune can be much improved.
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Plenty of forced induction setups are around here with automatics. They work just fine.
Yes the transmission tune needs some work and an A6 isn't going to survive 1000rwhp at a drag strip.. but they hold up well enough if tuned right
The issues with when they shift, etc. is all in tuning and can be adjusted. Even without the SC the factory transmission tune can be much improved.
Yes the transmission tune needs some work and an A6 isn't going to survive 1000rwhp at a drag strip.. but they hold up well enough if tuned right
The issues with when they shift, etc. is all in tuning and can be adjusted. Even without the SC the factory transmission tune can be much improved.
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Plenty of forced induction setups are around here with automatics. They work just fine.
Yes the transmission tune needs some work and an A6 isn't going to survive 1000rwhp at a drag strip.. but they hold up well enough if tuned right
The issues with when they shift, etc. is all in tuning and can be adjusted. Even without the SC the factory transmission tune can be much improved.
Yes the transmission tune needs some work and an A6 isn't going to survive 1000rwhp at a drag strip.. but they hold up well enough if tuned right
The issues with when they shift, etc. is all in tuning and can be adjusted. Even without the SC the factory transmission tune can be much improved.
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All that sounds like tuning issues to me. The factory did a crappy job setting up the shifting for WOT
Ask the question in the forced induction forum or scan/tune forum and you'll get better answers. I do some tuning but unless you're local I won't be of much help. There are an insane # of tables that make A6 transmission work
I know Pat Guerra ("pat G") has helped people tuning them in the past. Whether he can help remotely or not, I have no idea. Google his name and you'll find his website. Email him and see if he can help.
Some examples of transmission settings:
Ask the question in the forced induction forum or scan/tune forum and you'll get better answers. I do some tuning but unless you're local I won't be of much help. There are an insane # of tables that make A6 transmission work
I know Pat Guerra ("pat G") has helped people tuning them in the past. Whether he can help remotely or not, I have no idea. Google his name and you'll find his website. Email him and see if he can help.
Some examples of transmission settings:
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Was curious can you charge or boost an automatic.I know there are Mercedes that are but I was seriously wondering if my car fails to catch and upshift even at the slightest spin of the tire in paddle mode , how would it handle the increase in power and secondly if you left it in automatic without being able to control the gears, wouldn't it just red line the **** out of the motor, upon spooling or charging in either mode ? Someone please break this down for me.( I drive an 08 C6 auto 6 speed with paddles)
As far as blowers vs turbos, it's a matter of how much power you want, how much you are willing to spend, and how often you are willing to replace transmissions.
A properly tuned A6 can handle about 600 hp when street driven, which is more than an otherwise stock LS3 with a blower will produce.
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All '08 Vettes with an automatic are C6's, 6 speeds, and have paddles, so there is no need to define that part in future posts.
As far as blowers vs turbos, it's a matter of how much power you want, how much you are willing to spend, and how often you are willing to replace transmissions.
A properly tuned A6 can handle about 600 hp when street driven, which is more than an otherwise stock LS3 with a blower will produce.
As far as blowers vs turbos, it's a matter of how much power you want, how much you are willing to spend, and how often you are willing to replace transmissions.
A properly tuned A6 can handle about 600 hp when street driven, which is more than an otherwise stock LS3 with a blower will produce.
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True on both counts
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You're comparing German/Italian supercars to something from GM and expecting to see no difference?
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Checking the performance list brought up 10 N/A LS3's that are running quicker than the quickest blown LS3 with only a blower. I rather doubt any of those N/A cars were pushing 600 hp that you assumed the blower car easily produced.
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The and corvette and nissan are similar in price points, there is no excuse for gmc horrid transmissions
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Base price for Corvettes are in the 50K range, base price for a GTR is around 100K
Regardless, they really aren't horrid. That's not to say they couldn't have done a better job with some of the programming, but the aftermarket has gotten pretty good at fixing that.
I wonder how the new A8's are on the C7's
Regardless, they really aren't horrid. That's not to say they couldn't have done a better job with some of the programming, but the aftermarket has gotten pretty good at fixing that.
I wonder how the new A8's are on the C7's
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Take clean underwear in case you shlt yourself.
Compare that to being able to do your own for about $50.
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I neant z06 and zr1 are simikar in price
Base price for Corvettes are in the 50K range, base price for a GTR is around 100K
Regardless, they really aren't horrid. That's not to say they couldn't have done a better job with some of the programming, but the aftermarket has gotten pretty good at fixing that.
I wonder how the new A8's are on the C7's
Regardless, they really aren't horrid. That's not to say they couldn't have done a better job with some of the programming, but the aftermarket has gotten pretty good at fixing that.
I wonder how the new A8's are on the C7's
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