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Old 03-10-2005, 07:30 AM
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C&D next month will be running a road test article for a naturally aspirated Lingenfelter tuned C6. It's pumping 510bhp and tested at 3.8 0-60 launch and 122mph in the 1/4 at 11.7 and weighs 200+ lbs more than the Z06

Pricetag: $85 large

So based on those numbers, C&D is confident that the Z will post a 3.7 sec launch and do the quarter in under 11.7 secs at 127mph.

GM's targeted price: UNDER $65K

[edit] Lingenfelter's website has the kit rated at 500bhp, not 510.

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GM's targeted price: UNDER $65K
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How do you know this? Was it in the article?
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GM's targeted price: UNDER $65K


How do you know this? Was it in the article?
Yup.
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I think it will be very tough for the Speed Shops to improve on the LS7's performance. GM has really done a sweet engine. And thats good.

No reason to have to do H/C, change of pistons, S/C etc.

But, it probably would gain another 100-150 HP very Cheaply with a Nitrous or Alky Kit. Not saying I'm gonna do it. But, someone will ... and now we are talking low 10's and probably 140 Traps.

Also .... would probably not need to do Drivetrain alterations to handle 550-575 RWHP. Have been told the Train is solid ... as in Chevy / Like a Rock ..... or in this case ... Like a Rocketship.

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Also .... would probably not need to do Drivetrain alterations to handle 550-575 RWHP. Have been told the Train is solid ... as in Chevy / Like a Rock ..... or in this case ... Like a Rocketship.
Actually, no. Lingenfelter has a 25th commemorative ed. C6 with the Z71 drivetrain, and the Z's will be more robust. The Lingenfelter is rated at 725bhp!!!!

Oh yeah - it will be offered as a vert, too!

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Originally Posted by bernrex
I think it will be very tough for the Speed Shops to improve on the LS7's performance. GM has really done a sweet engine. And thats good.

Aftermarket tuners are almost always better than factory, they can tune anything you give them to get more power out of it...
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Saw the article yesterday when I was waiting at Jiffy Lube, nice
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Originally Posted by YukonCornelius
Actually, no. Lingenfelter has a 25th commemorative ed. C6 with the Z71 drivetrain, and the Z's will be more robust. The Lingenfelter is rated at 725bhp!!!!

Oh yeah - it will be offered as a vert, too!
My point exactly ... I'm being conservative saying it good to 575 RWHP ... lets estimate that as being equal to 675 Flywheel. It probably can handle even more. GM hasn't told the exact rating ... just that they built in quite abit of overage ... to protect them against alot of warranty repairs.

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Lingenfelter uses VERY mild cams in thier stage I and street packages. No where near what Cartek or some of the other tuners use.

I suspect that is why thier numbers were right at 500, they used a cam profile very close to the factory LS7.

In the LSx series a cam change and header change has been worth almost 100bhp on a 350ci.
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Originally Posted by 1Day
Aftermarket tuners are almost always better than factory, they can tune anything you give them to get more power out of it...
True, look at the C5R. Wasn't that basically an aftermarket Pratt and Miller car?
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Default power potential 475 RWHP anyway

Originally Posted by bernrex
I think it will be very tough for the Speed Shops to improve on the LS7's performance. GM has really done a sweet engine. And thats good.

No reason to have to do H/C, change of pistons, S/C etc.

But, it probably would gain another 100-150 HP very Cheaply with a Nitrous or Alky Kit. Not saying I'm gonna do it. But, someone will ... and now we are talking low 10's and probably 140 Traps.

Also .... would probably not need to do Drivetrain alterations to handle 550-575 RWHP. Have been told the Train is solid ... as in Chevy / Like a Rock ..... or in this case ... Like a Rocketship.
A set of long tube headers, a small compression increase and a cam with some overlap & additional lift should give a significant boost in performance. A chassis dyno tune to optimize the air fuel ratio and spark curve will help as well....it will not take the tuners long to figure out what to do.....well before my warrantee runs out.....LOL
If my c-5 is any measure 475-500 rwhp should be EASY
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Originally Posted by YukonCornelius
C&D next month will be running a road test article for a naturally aspirated Lingenfelter tuned C6. It's pumping 510bhp and tested at 3.8 0-60 launch and 122mph in the 1/4 at 11.7 and weighs 200+ lbs more than the Z06

Pricetag: $85 large

So based on those numbers, C&D is confident that the Z will post a 3.7 sec launch and do the quarter in under 11.7 secs at 127mph.

GM's targeted price: UNDER $65K

[edit] Lingenfelter's website has the kit rated at 500bhp, not 510.



Actually the Car & Driver article ("Just can't wait for the new Z06?") says the Lingenfelter 402 C6 Corvette ($85,781) "struck 60 in a scorching 3.7 ticks and the quarter in 11.9 at 122. Thus, our estimates that the Z06 will do 60 in 3.8 and the quarter in 11.7 at 127 seem quite accurate, especially since its projected curbe weight of 3150 pounds is about 200 less than LPE's (Lingenfelter's car). Furthermore, the LPE also handled and stopped like a champ. With the suspension and brake alterations and the gigantic tires - larger front and rear than the Z06's Goodyears - the LPE recorded an even 1.00 g on the skidpad (0.98 for stock) and a short 163-foot expanse from 70 to 0 mph (versus 164)."

Furthermore, the article continues..."At almost 86 large, the LPE Vette not only is 20 grand over the projected cost of the new Z06 but also resides in 911 Carrera S land. Still, in a car that is so ridiculously fast and so easy to drive, not wanting to wait (for the Z06) never came at such an attractive price."
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This really confirms that the recently released test #'s by GM are pretty accurate. What were saying? 11.5 @ 128mph and 3.6 sec for 0 ~ 60MPH. I just can't wait to see the real thing driven by real people on this board.

C6Z rocks!
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Originally Posted by bernrex
I think it will be very tough for the Speed Shops to improve on the LS7's performance. GM has really done a sweet engine. And thats good.

No reason to have to do H/C, change of pistons, S/C etc.

That's about as retarded as Corky from "Life Goes On."

It will be very EASY for shops to improve performance. There's an another 150rwhp to get out of these cars NA.
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Originally Posted by YukonCornelius
Actually, no. Lingenfelter has a 25th commemorative ed. C6 with the Z71 drivetrain, and the Z's will be more robust. The Lingenfelter is rated at 725bhp!!!!

Oh yeah - it will be offered as a vert, too!
I hope you mean Z51...Z71 is a 4x4 truck. BTW the 25th Comm Ed is a 427TT. Not NA.
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Originally Posted by bernrex
I think it will be very tough for the Speed Shops to improve on the LS7's performance. GM has really done a sweet engine. And thats good.

Are you kidding? GM has to pass emissions, tuners don't have to if they don't want to. We'll be seeing some serious monsters in the next couple of years.
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
I hope you mean Z51...Z71 is a 4x4 truck. BTW the 25th Comm Ed is a 427TT. Not NA.

Right, Z51 (I've had 2 Z71 Pick ups - so I got Z71 on the brain.)

The commemorative was just a side note. The point of the post was the 500hp naturally aspirated version mentioned in the article.

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Originally Posted by Jason Blue Boost
Saw the article yesterday when I was waiting at Jiffy Lube, nice

Jiffy lube?????? Jason, are you trying to give me a heart attack

That better not be your TA, I know the Vette is safe, so I'm assuming it's your driver or something


For the rest of this discussion, the ZO6 will be one bad machine, no doubt about it, but not everybody will get one. For the guys that don't get one, but still want to go faster in their C6 we have several packages for whatever power level you desire. And for the guys that want the ultimate Corvette available, we will be offering ZO6 performance packages as well.

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Don't worry Ed I had my work van over there. Besides the TA is too low to clear the metal yellow railings or guides.

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Originally Posted by Ed@Lingenfelter
we will be offering ZO6 performance packages as well.

Ed
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Is the new 427 TT gonna make more power than the 427 that LPE has been using for a while now? I would assume so just b/c the new heads flow so freakin much.

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