[Z06] B&B Fusion is the system to have for the Z06!!!
09-07-2008, 10:52 AM
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Ok, got the B&B Fusions on today. Make sure you use a 4 post lift and not a drive on "ramp" type lift. Otherwise it's impossible to get the passenger side muffler off.
Anyway, the install went great once we got the car on the correct lift. Fit and finish of the Fusion was excellent and the exhaust lined up perfect.
Have driven the car almost 60 miles with the new install. IT SOUNDS GREAT. Both the "flaps open" and the "flaps closed" sound great. Course the open gives the most thunder. The closed setting is quiet but somewhat louder than stock.
On the highway the sounds are sweet. Jim at Southerncarparts was 100% correct on the system.
There is a slight drone with them open or closed. In the closed or "quiet" setting, the drone is very small and I listened to my radio today with no problems. I only picked up the drone in 6th at around 70mph. But it is very livable and not obnoxious.
So, one happy camper here. Very glad I made the change and the car sounds great. Had several friends come by today to hear the car and awesome was the word I heard the most.
Bob
Anyway, the install went great once we got the car on the correct lift. Fit and finish of the Fusion was excellent and the exhaust lined up perfect.
Have driven the car almost 60 miles with the new install. IT SOUNDS GREAT. Both the "flaps open" and the "flaps closed" sound great. Course the open gives the most thunder. The closed setting is quiet but somewhat louder than stock.
On the highway the sounds are sweet. Jim at Southerncarparts was 100% correct on the system.
There is a slight drone with them open or closed. In the closed or "quiet" setting, the drone is very small and I listened to my radio today with no problems. I only picked up the drone in 6th at around 70mph. But it is very livable and not obnoxious.
So, one happy camper here. Very glad I made the change and the car sounds great. Had several friends come by today to hear the car and awesome was the word I heard the most.
Bob
See ya,
Jim Vose
09-07-2008, 03:49 PM
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I'm in the same boat as many here of what make to go for? It's an expensive mistake to make if I get it wrong, + I'll have trouble reselling them in the UK, as there are only a few Z06's here.
From what I've read so far, I think the Corsa will suit me. I see a few others are swaying this way too.
Anyone here running the Corsa? We would love to hear your review? I'd like to know more about the dreaded drone, any problem areas here?
From what I've read so far, I think the Corsa will suit me. I see a few others are swaying this way too.
Anyone here running the Corsa? We would love to hear your review? I'd like to know more about the dreaded drone, any problem areas here?
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09-07-2008, 04:11 PM
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I'm in the same boat as many here of what make to go for? It's an expensive mistake to make if I get it wrong, + I'll have trouble reselling them in the UK, as there are only a few Z06's here.
From what I've read so far, I think the Corsa will suit me. I see a few others are swaying this way too.
Anyone here running the Corsa? We would love to hear your review? I'd like to know more about the dreaded drone, any problem areas here?
From what I've read so far, I think the Corsa will suit me. I see a few others are swaying this way too.
Anyone here running the Corsa? We would love to hear your review? I'd like to know more about the dreaded drone, any problem areas here?
I've been listening and looking for 2 years before I made my choice. If you could make it over the pond and to a large Corvette event, you could probably hear all the different systems. It really helps to hear them in person.
Bob
09-07-2008, 05:56 PM
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Ok, got the B&B Fusions on today. Make sure you use a 4 post lift and not a drive on "ramp" type lift. Otherwise it's impossible to get the passenger side muffler off.
Anyway, the install went great once we got the car on the correct lift. Fit and finish of the Fusion was excellent and the exhaust lined up perfect.
Have driven the car almost 60 miles with the new install. IT SOUNDS GREAT. Both the "flaps open" and the "flaps closed" sound great. Course the open gives the most thunder. The closed setting is quiet but somewhat louder than stock.
On the highway the sounds are sweet. Jim at Southerncarparts was 100% correct on the system.
There is a slight drone with them open or closed. In the closed or "quiet" setting, the drone is very small and I listened to my radio today with no problems. I only picked up the drone in 6th at around 70mph. But it is very livable and not obnoxious.
So, one happy camper here. Very glad I made the change and the car sounds great. Had several friends come by today to hear the car and awesome was the word I heard the most.
Bob
Anyway, the install went great once we got the car on the correct lift. Fit and finish of the Fusion was excellent and the exhaust lined up perfect.
Have driven the car almost 60 miles with the new install. IT SOUNDS GREAT. Both the "flaps open" and the "flaps closed" sound great. Course the open gives the most thunder. The closed setting is quiet but somewhat louder than stock.
On the highway the sounds are sweet. Jim at Southerncarparts was 100% correct on the system.
There is a slight drone with them open or closed. In the closed or "quiet" setting, the drone is very small and I listened to my radio today with no problems. I only picked up the drone in 6th at around 70mph. But it is very livable and not obnoxious.
So, one happy camper here. Very glad I made the change and the car sounds great. Had several friends come by today to hear the car and awesome was the word I heard the most.
Bob
09-07-2008, 07:14 PM
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09-08-2008, 02:02 PM
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Guys, ok took the car for an extensive drive today and my verdict is in.....With the baffles closed, the car (IMHO) has very, very little drone if any. Now, you CAN hear the exhaust more so than stock but there is not really a drone at all (keep in mind that I just had the borla stingers on the car so my ears might be desensitized a bit). When the engine is lugging at low rpm's (1500 and below) you can hear some drone wanting to rear it's ugly head. Open the baffles, and yes....significant increase in noise and drone (especially at low rpms, when the engine is under a load). Close the baffles, and the drone is gone.
My setup is an 09 Z06 with BB Fusion Exhaust, Mild to Wild Exhaust Switch, and the Borla X pipe. Not sure if the X-pipe makes a difference in drone (assuming it does not).
There you have it, my honest feedback..Hope everyone else has the same experience.
See ya,
Jim
My setup is an 09 Z06 with BB Fusion Exhaust, Mild to Wild Exhaust Switch, and the Borla X pipe. Not sure if the X-pipe makes a difference in drone (assuming it does not).
There you have it, my honest feedback..Hope everyone else has the same experience.
See ya,
Jim
That essentially matches the other guys car I heard, but for some reason my Fusions don't sound or fit like that! I've been talking with Mike Boat directly to try & get it resolved, and he keeps saying he'll send me a replacement exhaust to swap out & see if that fixes things. So far time keeps passing & nothing... I may have to drive the car there & see if he can fix it in person.
09-08-2008, 03:14 PM
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after listening to all the videos, definitely this is a matter of personal taste. I like the sounds of the stock mufflers with the perforated pipes sealed - $ 200 gets you the sound of $ 1,500+ exhaust systems...
09-08-2008, 06:37 PM
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Couldn't find anything about it on the forum.
I'm thinking about getting the Fusion but after listening to the audio files and reading through experiences in this thread it sounds like it will be too loud for me in the closed position. I really like the possibility of going into "silent mode" but then I also like to get really loud sometimes. The perfect exhaust for me would be the stock exhaust being a lot more aggressive when the valves are open.
Ryan
09-08-2008, 11:26 PM
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I like loud and don't mind the drone, and the drone only bothers me when I an going uphill in 6th at about 60MPH. I just close the butterflies if the drone bothers me.
The stock mufflers with the butterflies open was too mild for my taste so I had the stock mufflers modded. Now they are just right...
BEFORE
AFTER
The result is similar to a Corsa system except you don't get the corsa burble at idle (I had Corsa Indy's on my C5). The mod makes the mufflers sound great at WOT. And this mod only cost me $250.
Mods: Calloway Honker CAI, Kooks headers, hi-flow Cats, X-Pipe.
The stock mufflers with the butterflies open was too mild for my taste so I had the stock mufflers modded. Now they are just right...
BEFORE
AFTER
The result is similar to a Corsa system except you don't get the corsa burble at idle (I had Corsa Indy's on my C5). The mod makes the mufflers sound great at WOT. And this mod only cost me $250.
Mods: Calloway Honker CAI, Kooks headers, hi-flow Cats, X-Pipe.
09-09-2008, 04:41 PM
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Might be helpful to you to find a Corsa thread. That way you can get some feedback from folks that chose to go with that system.
I've been listening and looking for 2 years before I made my choice. If you could make it over the pond and to a large Corvette event, you could probably hear all the different systems. It really helps to hear them in person.
Bob
I've been listening and looking for 2 years before I made my choice. If you could make it over the pond and to a large Corvette event, you could probably hear all the different systems. It really helps to hear them in person.
Bob
Can anybody answer this: at 70-80mph on the highway, in sixth gear, ist he BBFusion system with 2 pipes open quieter than the stock system with all 4 open (fuse pulled, M2W, etc.)?
Is the loudest form of the stock system louder than the quietest mode of the fusions?
09-09-2008, 08:56 PM
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Hi Bob. Do you feel that you picked up any horsepower with this system even though people buy them for the sound. A few extra ponies would be some nice icing on the cake. I'm from RI so maybe we can run into each other at a Vette event so I can hear them. Thanx.
09-09-2008, 09:20 PM
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Bob, thanks for sharing your opinion. I am so glad your experience with the Billy Boat Fusion System was similar to mine. I started to get a little worried as sound (like taste, smell, and sight) is a subjective sense that what some may find pleasant others may not. I would hate to of convinced someone to purchase the B&B Corvette Fusion System and they hate it.
See ya,
Jim Vose
See ya,
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09-11-2008, 05:11 PM
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Recieved the "B&B FUSION" yesterday and had them installed this morning. WOW!!! That is a quantum leap in sound. It sounds like a high performance motor should sound. Throaty and as you climb through the RPM range; it sounds like a cage of wildcats let loose at higher RPMs. Not obnoxious at all. At speed there is quite a bit of drone if you are "lugging" the engine in the 1000-2000 range. I have the Mild to Wild and that will bring the system back "close" to stock as far as sound levels are concerned.
I had a local shop, Performance Truck and Diesel, install the system as they have new two post lifts and that is a must as far as I am concerned in as much as the rear suspension needs to be relaxed to its fullest to remove and install the muffler assemblies. If two people work the job it is much easier. One in back guiding the units in/out as the other person in front of the axle tells other which way to twist in order to effect easy removal/installation. We dropped the "H" pipe in the beginning as it makes life really easy. Disconnecting the rear torsion bar at the mount two points and swiveling it down to the cross member adds much needed clearance. One word of caution, when installing the passenger side assembly, watch that the exhaust tube doesn't snag the wire harness just above the axle; guide the tube past this area carefully. Thanx to Butch and Pete at Performance Truck and Diesel; total time wheels off the ground to wheels down...40 minutes! B&B, the design and manufacturing is outstanding, you have a winner with the "Fusion"; and again, thanks to Southern Car Parts(Jim) for a great deal.
I had a local shop, Performance Truck and Diesel, install the system as they have new two post lifts and that is a must as far as I am concerned in as much as the rear suspension needs to be relaxed to its fullest to remove and install the muffler assemblies. If two people work the job it is much easier. One in back guiding the units in/out as the other person in front of the axle tells other which way to twist in order to effect easy removal/installation. We dropped the "H" pipe in the beginning as it makes life really easy. Disconnecting the rear torsion bar at the mount two points and swiveling it down to the cross member adds much needed clearance. One word of caution, when installing the passenger side assembly, watch that the exhaust tube doesn't snag the wire harness just above the axle; guide the tube past this area carefully. Thanx to Butch and Pete at Performance Truck and Diesel; total time wheels off the ground to wheels down...40 minutes! B&B, the design and manufacturing is outstanding, you have a winner with the "Fusion"; and again, thanks to Southern Car Parts(Jim) for a great deal.
09-18-2008, 11:03 PM
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Recieved the "B&B FUSION" yesterday and had them installed this morning. WOW!!! That is a quantum leap in sound. It sounds like a high performance motor should sound. Throaty and as you climb through the RPM range; it sounds like a cage of wildcats let loose at higher RPMs. Not obnoxious at all. At speed there is quite a bit of drone if you are "lugging" the engine in the 1000-2000 range. I have the Mild to Wild and that will bring the system back "close" to stock as far as sound levels are concerned.
I had a local shop, Performance Truck and Diesel, install the system as they have new two post lifts and that is a must as far as I am concerned in as much as the rear suspension needs to be relaxed to its fullest to remove and install the muffler assemblies. If two people work the job it is much easier. One in back guiding the units in/out as the other person in front of the axle tells other which way to twist in order to effect easy removal/installation. We dropped the "H" pipe in the beginning as it makes life really easy. Disconnecting the rear torsion bar at the mount two points and swiveling it down to the cross member adds much needed clearance. One word of caution, when installing the passenger side assembly, watch that the exhaust tube doesn't snag the wire harness just above the axle; guide the tube past this area carefully. Thanx to Butch and Pete at Performance Truck and Diesel; total time wheels off the ground to wheels down...40 minutes! B&B, the design and manufacturing is outstanding, you have a winner with the "Fusion"; and again, thanks to Southern Car Parts(Jim) for a great deal.
I had a local shop, Performance Truck and Diesel, install the system as they have new two post lifts and that is a must as far as I am concerned in as much as the rear suspension needs to be relaxed to its fullest to remove and install the muffler assemblies. If two people work the job it is much easier. One in back guiding the units in/out as the other person in front of the axle tells other which way to twist in order to effect easy removal/installation. We dropped the "H" pipe in the beginning as it makes life really easy. Disconnecting the rear torsion bar at the mount two points and swiveling it down to the cross member adds much needed clearance. One word of caution, when installing the passenger side assembly, watch that the exhaust tube doesn't snag the wire harness just above the axle; guide the tube past this area carefully. Thanx to Butch and Pete at Performance Truck and Diesel; total time wheels off the ground to wheels down...40 minutes! B&B, the design and manufacturing is outstanding, you have a winner with the "Fusion"; and again, thanks to Southern Car Parts(Jim) for a great deal.
Thanks Larry....Glad you like it...
Jim
09-21-2008, 08:26 AM
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07, '13, '15
I'm in the same boat as many here of what make to go for? It's an expensive mistake to make if I get it wrong, + I'll have trouble reselling them in the UK, as there are only a few Z06's here.
From what I've read so far, I think the Corsa will suit me. I see a few others are swaying this way too.
Anyone here running the Corsa? We would love to hear your review? I'd like to know more about the dreaded drone, any problem areas here?
From what I've read so far, I think the Corsa will suit me. I see a few others are swaying this way too.
Anyone here running the Corsa? We would love to hear your review? I'd like to know more about the dreaded drone, any problem areas here?
Corsa Exhaust Review.
Very nice exhaust, and sounds great at WOT...My only complaint was that the Corsa C6 Z06 Exhaust at idle and mild acceleration it did not sound any different from stock (at least to my ears) and loses the dual mode functionality. Oh, and ZERO drone with the Corsa...No lie there......Corsa's claim of no drone is correct.
Thanks,
Jim
09-21-2008, 01:34 PM
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thats a great idea I should have had - a large corvette event to "test drive" things. When/where is the next one??
Can anybody answer this: at 70-80mph on the highway, in sixth gear, ist he BBFusion system with 2 pipes open quieter than the stock system with all 4 open (fuse pulled, M2W, etc.)?
Is the loudest form of the stock system louder than the quietest mode of the fusions?
Can anybody answer this: at 70-80mph on the highway, in sixth gear, ist he BBFusion system with 2 pipes open quieter than the stock system with all 4 open (fuse pulled, M2W, etc.)?
Is the loudest form of the stock system louder than the quietest mode of the fusions?
Joe