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Old 12-22-2010, 08:23 AM
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The 2011 Z06 transmission has carbon fiber syncros. Did GM put the same transmission in the 2011 Grand Sport ? Does anybody know ?
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
The 2011 Z06 transmission has carbon fiber syncros. Did GM put the same transmission in the 2011 Grand Sport ? Does anybody know ?
Not sure if it's the same, but all TR6060's in the Corvette line for 2011 got the CF Syncros.
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Not sure if it's the same, but all TR6060's in the Corvette line for 2011 got the CF Syncros.
Whats the advantage or disadvantage ?
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Whats the advantage or disadvantage ?
See your thread in the "general" section. Posted it there.
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Whats the advantage or disadvantage ?
I have heard there are problems with the carbon fiber syncros. They work well at first getting rid of the nibbles and grinds when cold, but there is a know problem of "ion exchange" that can occur between carbon fiber and aluminum from the other aluminum parts in the transmission. This will weaken the carbon fiber over time. This is exacerbated with the hot and cold cycles of the transmission and the carbon fiber syncros will become brittle over time and you will end up with very serious nibbles and grinds all the time. I would go with the 09 or 10's.
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i dont know why i feel this way, but knowing mine is notchy when cold then fine when warm i cant help but think a different oil might be the solution. clearly it cannot be the syncros per se because they work just fine when warmed up. in fact i would go on to say they work even better when hot.
this tells me it has to do with oil viscosity. and i dont know a lot about what the chemical make up of this type of oil is but i know it is either the same as automatic trans oil or very close to it.
perhaps a synthetic or somthing with different temp range?
i know someone here has reported better shifting with a different oil. but i cannot locate that thread.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo
I have heard there are problems with the carbon fiber syncros. They work well at first getting rid of the nibbles and grinds when cold, but there is a know problem of "ion exchange" that can occur between carbon fiber and aluminum from the other aluminum parts in the transmission. This will weaken the carbon fiber over time. This is exacerbated with the hot and cold cycles of the transmission and the carbon fiber syncros will become brittle over time and you will end up with very serious nibbles and grinds all the time. I would go with the 09 or 10's.
Where did you hear this? Do you have data?
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Originally Posted by bass mechanic
i dont know why i feel this way, but knowing mine is notchy when cold then fine when warm i cant help but think a different oil might be the solution. clearly it cannot be the syncros per se because they work just fine when warmed up. in fact i would go on to say they work even better when hot.
this tells me it has to do with oil viscosity. and i dont know a lot about what the chemical make up of this type of oil is but i know it is either the same as automatic trans oil or very close to it.
perhaps a synthetic or somthing with different temp range?
i know someone here has reported better shifting with a different oil. but i cannot locate that thread.
Makes total sense
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i dont know why i feel this way, but knowing mine is notchy when cold then fine when warm i cant help but think a different oil might be the solution. clearly it cannot be the syncros per se because they work just fine when warmed up. in fact i would go on to say they work even better when hot.
this tells me it has to do with oil viscosity. and i dont know a lot about what the chemical make up of this type of oil is but i know it is either the same as automatic trans oil or very close to it.
perhaps a synthetic or somthing with different temp range?
i know someone here has reported better shifting with a different oil. but i cannot locate that thread.
I had better shifting when going to the Amsoil ATF which is/was a DEX III fluid. If I were to change again, I would try Amsoil's ATD which they call their Torque Drive fluid.

I did notice much better cold performance with the Amsoil but I do still get a touch of nibble when I first start out but it is usually gone within a couple of minutes.
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It's probably listed somewhere here on the forum, but what causes the nibbles? I thought it was me just getting used to the clutch, but apparently it's not. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by MYREDZO6
It's probably listed somewhere here on the forum, but what causes the nibbles? I thought it was me just getting used to the clutch, but apparently it's not. Thanks.
The fluid is thick (cold), the syncro's were designed to work with thin (hot) fluid.

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