[Z06] Hinson Vette Crashes/Rolls at 230 at Texas Mile
03-28-2011, 03:45 PM
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If the tire manufacturer/engineer says don't do it, they must know something.
Not to add insult to injury, but the remarks made in the original Hinson thread suggesting they would be the "guinea pigs" to find out if the M/T dr's would hold together during an extended top speed run just did not make sense.
I agree, people better wake up before someone gets hurt.
Thank God it worked out OK, though.
03-28-2011, 06:50 PM
#43
Melting Slicks
So, he's very lucky 
Roll bar did it's job
MT's tires blew?? causing this mess?
What could we use??that's what most of us run, I've run F1 runflats and they suck, I'm sure the tires had nitrogen and were pumped up to 40lbs, the rims looked like stock Zo6 style rims, can someone verify??
Roll bar did it's job
MT's tires blew?? causing this mess?
What could we use??that's what most of us run, I've run F1 runflats and they suck, I'm sure the tires had nitrogen and were pumped up to 40lbs, the rims looked like stock Zo6 style rims, can someone verify??
03-28-2011, 07:24 PM
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So, he's very lucky
Roll bar did it's job
MT's tires blew?? causing this mess?
What could we use??that's what most of us run, I've run F1 runflats and they suck, I'm sure the tires had nitrogen and were pumped up to 40lbs, the rims looked like stock Zo6 style rims, can someone verify??
Roll bar did it's job
MT's tires blew?? causing this mess?
What could we use??that's what most of us run, I've run F1 runflats and they suck, I'm sure the tires had nitrogen and were pumped up to 40lbs, the rims looked like stock Zo6 style rims, can someone verify??
03-28-2011, 10:13 PM
#45
Burning Brakes
It's a shame a Z had to be ruined because someone thought they knew a manufacturers tire better than the manufacturer.
What's with the cheaping out on safety? a 4 point? You expect everything to be peachy unicorn farts if something goes wrong at 200+mph? This kind of thing foolhardiness me of that one mustang that wrecked at Hallett, they had a bolt in cage and it punched through and it was the saving grace they didn't put proper seats in that strangely saved their lives.
Someone will get a crash course in Darwinian evolution eventually.
What's with the cheaping out on safety? a 4 point? You expect everything to be peachy unicorn farts if something goes wrong at 200+mph? This kind of thing foolhardiness me of that one mustang that wrecked at Hallett, they had a bolt in cage and it punched through and it was the saving grace they didn't put proper seats in that strangely saved their lives.
Someone will get a crash course in Darwinian evolution eventually.
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03-28-2011, 10:16 PM
#46
Le Mans Master
That's not very smart in my book regardless of how many successful runs he made.
03-28-2011, 10:51 PM
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03-28-2011, 10:58 PM
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03-28-2011, 11:09 PM
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The GT's are made from the factory with a build in roll bar/cage. No other bar/cage is needed on the GT's to run at the Texas Mile.
03-29-2011, 12:28 AM
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03-29-2011, 09:29 AM
#51
Melting Slicks
It was mentioned that he was running Repro wheels?? is that right??
I thought that he would have been running a forged wheel in 18", the
Mt's might have not been the only issue.
Granted they are not meant for continous 200+ runs, but if something else happened we would all like to know WHAT really happened.
In one of the pictures only the center was showing with stub spokes, as if the wheel came apart.
I thought that he would have been running a forged wheel in 18", the
Mt's might have not been the only issue.
Granted they are not meant for continous 200+ runs, but if something else happened we would all like to know WHAT really happened.
In one of the pictures only the center was showing with stub spokes, as if the wheel came apart.
03-29-2011, 10:01 AM
#52
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It was mentioned that he was running Repro wheels?? is that right??
I thought that he would have been running a forged wheel in 18", the
Mt's might have not been the only issue.
Granted they are not meant for continous 200+ runs, but if something else happened we would all like to know WHAT really happened.
In one of the pictures only the center was showing with stub spokes, as if the wheel came apart.
I thought that he would have been running a forged wheel in 18", the
Mt's might have not been the only issue.
Granted they are not meant for continous 200+ runs, but if something else happened we would all like to know WHAT really happened.
In one of the pictures only the center was showing with stub spokes, as if the wheel came apart.
But I don't think any wheel would survive a 230 mph roll...
Now whether the tire or the wheel was at fault, an accident analysis expert (certainly not me) would have to make that determination.
I would guess that the break on the wheel would be from the car landing on the tire and wheel during the roll?
I am so happy to see the driver jump out of the car like that.
And after researching how tire speed ratings are determined, and noting no such rating on my Mickeys, I won't be using mine for top speed runs.
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03-29-2011, 10:28 AM
#53
Melting Slicks
I have r888's on my car now, but if I was to run them I would have to have them shaved, they are out of round.
I wonder if they would be better for the 200mph runs??
being a road race tire they should be better
I wonder if they would be better for the 200mph runs??
being a road race tire they should be better
03-29-2011, 10:29 AM
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Tech Contributor
03-29-2011, 10:46 AM
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Tech Contributor
I read about it today on a website (Tirerack perhaps), Z was 149+ (I remember when the new 84 Vette had that rating on the tires)...at that time no production cars could go 149+ so that was the top! Now the top is Y 186 mph which is 300 kmh since cars can do that.
03-29-2011, 11:07 AM
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While a Z-speed rating still often appears in the tire size designation of these tires, such as 225/50ZR16 91W, the Z in the size signifies a maximum speed capability in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h; the W in the service description indicates the tire's 168 mph, 270 km/h maximum speed.
225/50ZR16 in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h
205/45ZR17 88W 168 mph, 270 km/h
285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h
Most recently, when the Y-speed rating indicated in a service description is enclosed in parentheses, such as 285/35ZR19 (99Y), the top speed of the tire has been tested in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h indicated by the service description as shown below:
285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h
285/35ZR19 (99Y) in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h
225/50ZR16 in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h
205/45ZR17 88W 168 mph, 270 km/h
285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h
Most recently, when the Y-speed rating indicated in a service description is enclosed in parentheses, such as 285/35ZR19 (99Y), the top speed of the tire has been tested in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h indicated by the service description as shown below:
285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h
285/35ZR19 (99Y) in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h
03-29-2011, 01:19 PM
#58
Le Mans Master
Sure looked stock to me when I looked in the driver side window.
I didn't know that. Guessing the two bars viewable thru the back glass is part of that?
I was referring to the Ford GT in attendance actually.
This thread has some detail on the build as well as pics //art
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...6mm-turbo.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...6mm-turbo.html
03-29-2011, 01:42 PM
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My bad. Didn't realize that was a factory piece in the GT.
That's a nice touch. Note to Chevy. . . . .
That's a nice touch. Note to Chevy. . . . .
