[Z06] C6 z06 ,,,fast intake mainfold???
04-30-2013, 02:00 PM
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C6 z06 ,,,fast intake mainfold???
Im planning to install headers+intake on my c6 z06.
And im thinking of install FAST INTAKE MAINFOLD WITH STOCK THROTTLE BODY.
what do you think about this setup ?
How much hp i will gain ?is it worth it?
Im asking because its expansive and i dont want to waste my money on little hp
And im thinking of install FAST INTAKE MAINFOLD WITH STOCK THROTTLE BODY.
what do you think about this setup ?
How much hp i will gain ?is it worth it?
Im asking because its expansive and i dont want to waste my money on little hp
04-30-2013, 02:29 PM
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Im planning to install headers+intake on my c6 z06.
And im thinking of install FAST INTAKE MAINFOLD WITH STOCK THROTTLE BODY.
what do you think about this setup ?
How much hp i will gain ?is it worth it?
Im asking because its expansive and i dont want to waste my money on little hp
And im thinking of install FAST INTAKE MAINFOLD WITH STOCK THROTTLE BODY.
what do you think about this setup ?
How much hp i will gain ?is it worth it?
Im asking because its expansive and i dont want to waste my money on little hp
The FAST LSXR102 manifold is going to add low to mid range torque to the engine's power band. More torque output in the RPM range you'll be driving is always a good thing in my eyes. Peak HP number gains are not going to be big.....anywhere from 10 HP+. But I think you'll see 20+ lbs/tq down low and in the midrange...something you can use everyday in normal driving mode.
Is it worth $1K+ ? That, you'll need to decide yourself.
Oh, and I have a FAST LSXR102 on my car.....550+ lbs/ft of torque N/A
04-30-2013, 02:35 PM
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You are going to get mixed responses on this question, but this is the low down from my experience.
The FAST LSXR102 manifold is going to add low to mid range torque to the engine's power band. More torque output in the RPM range you'll be driving is always a good thing in my eyes. Peak HP number gains are not going to be big.....anywhere from 10 HP+. But I think you'll see 20+ lbs/tq down low and in the midrange...something you can use everyday in normal driving mode.
Is it worth $1K+ ? That, you'll need to decide yourself.
Oh, and I have a FAST LSXR102 on my car.....550+ lbs/ft of torque N/A
The FAST LSXR102 manifold is going to add low to mid range torque to the engine's power band. More torque output in the RPM range you'll be driving is always a good thing in my eyes. Peak HP number gains are not going to be big.....anywhere from 10 HP+. But I think you'll see 20+ lbs/tq down low and in the midrange...something you can use everyday in normal driving mode.
Is it worth $1K+ ? That, you'll need to decide yourself.
Oh, and I have a FAST LSXR102 on my car.....550+ lbs/ft of torque N/A
what iv heard about this mainfold is when you add more mods (head.cam) you will gain more hp.
But if your car is bolt-on it wont gain that much just like you said.
04-30-2013, 02:45 PM
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It's the cumlative affects of various bolt-on's that are going to add significantly to your power output.
The long runners in the FAST will add torque down low and in the mid-range....how much will be predicated on the supporting mods.
HP is torque x rpm.
Add torque anywhere in that power curve and you'll add horsepower as well.
04-30-2013, 02:50 PM
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There are few, if any, bolt-on's that are going to give you big gains in of themselves....short of power adders such as NO2 or F/I .
It's the cumlative affects of various bolt-on's that are going to add significantly to your power output.
The long runners in the FAST will add torque down low and in the mid-range....how much will be predicated on the supporting mods.
HP is torque x rpm.
Add torque anywhere in that power curve and you'll add horsepower as well.
It's the cumlative affects of various bolt-on's that are going to add significantly to your power output.
The long runners in the FAST will add torque down low and in the mid-range....how much will be predicated on the supporting mods.
HP is torque x rpm.
Add torque anywhere in that power curve and you'll add horsepower as well.
My mod will be headers and intake . And im thinking of intake mainfold
Thats why i want to know is it worth hp gain
04-30-2013, 02:50 PM
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You are going to get mixed responses on this question, but this is the low down from my experience.
The FAST LSXR102 manifold is going to add low to mid range torque to the engine's power band. More torque output in the RPM range you'll be driving is always a good thing in my eyes. Peak HP number gains are not going to be big.....anywhere from 10 HP+. But I think you'll see 20+ lbs/tq down low and in the midrange...something you can use everyday in normal driving mode.
Is it worth $1K+ ? That, you'll need to decide yourself.
Oh, and I have a FAST LSXR102 on my car.....550+ lbs/ft of torque N/A
The FAST LSXR102 manifold is going to add low to mid range torque to the engine's power band. More torque output in the RPM range you'll be driving is always a good thing in my eyes. Peak HP number gains are not going to be big.....anywhere from 10 HP+. But I think you'll see 20+ lbs/tq down low and in the midrange...something you can use everyday in normal driving mode.
Is it worth $1K+ ? That, you'll need to decide yourself.
Oh, and I have a FAST LSXR102 on my car.....550+ lbs/ft of torque N/A
04-30-2013, 02:54 PM
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04-30-2013, 06:36 PM
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May be a good idea to port the stock intake until you add more mods such as a cam. I picked up 20 hp and 30 tq up top with the install of a FAST on an all ready ported stock intake. I had CAI, headers, and tune.
05-01-2013, 04:23 AM
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Can anyone corroborate if you get the fast 102 intake you need a nicky williams tb or a fast tb? This is what I was told.
If you are doing more mods you will gain more hp. If you are only doing headers cai then hp numbers will be minimal. The fast makes more hp with more mods, i.e. cam heads ect.......
If you are doing more mods you will gain more hp. If you are only doing headers cai then hp numbers will be minimal. The fast makes more hp with more mods, i.e. cam heads ect.......
05-01-2013, 04:25 AM
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Can anyone corroborate if you get the fast 102 intake you need a nicky williams tb or a fast tb? This is what I was told.
If you are doing more mods you will gain more hp. If you are only doing headers cai then hp numbers will be minimal. The fast makes more hp with more mods, i.e. cam heads ect.......
If you are doing more mods you will gain more hp. If you are only doing headers cai then hp numbers will be minimal. The fast makes more hp with more mods, i.e. cam heads ect.......
05-01-2013, 04:43 AM
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Im in the same boat as you I have heads and cam Im at 570hp 495 torque, Im am to debating on this will it help me get 600 to wheels. I would also like the responses from anyone also Good Thread....KING
05-01-2013, 04:47 AM
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i heard that with fast you will gain amazing torque but with hp it depends on your mods
05-01-2013, 09:52 AM
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I am going thru the same situation right now. I just had an ls7 built with heads and cam as well as full bolt ons. I opt'd to pass on the fast 102 intake and TB at first. Now that the motor is in and tuned, it falls flat at 5k since it isn't getting enough air. And I do have a ported ls7 intake on it currently.
So logically, most h/c modded motors should have the fast 102 on it.
And you do NOT need a nick Williams 102 tb to mate to the fast 102. You can port the oem TB to work just fine.
If you have a stock ls7 and are just doing bolt ons, a fast 102 is a waste... IMHO. You could do a ported ls7 intake, that would help, no doubt. But bang for the buck, the fast would be wasted money. Unless of course you plan to do h/c down the line.
My last h/c z06 made 580rwhp with a fast. Def made a huge gain over stock.
I'm trying to find a Fast for my current setup. If I do, I'll have my ported ls7 I take for sale. This would be perfect for the OP's setup or anyone looking to make a lil more then stock.
Aj
So logically, most h/c modded motors should have the fast 102 on it.
And you do NOT need a nick Williams 102 tb to mate to the fast 102. You can port the oem TB to work just fine.
If you have a stock ls7 and are just doing bolt ons, a fast 102 is a waste... IMHO. You could do a ported ls7 intake, that would help, no doubt. But bang for the buck, the fast would be wasted money. Unless of course you plan to do h/c down the line.
My last h/c z06 made 580rwhp with a fast. Def made a huge gain over stock.
I'm trying to find a Fast for my current setup. If I do, I'll have my ported ls7 I take for sale. This would be perfect for the OP's setup or anyone looking to make a lil more then stock.
Aj
05-01-2013, 10:38 AM
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The FAST LSXR102 IS the intake.
If you're asking if the Nick Williams 102 Throttle Body is worth doing, along with the FAST intake, I would say skip the throttle body.
Bottom line.....the FAST intake has a larger plenum volume, and LONG intake runners. It will always outperform the stock manifold, even when ported, because of those virtues. Long runners promote intake velocity and TORQUE......the OEM manifold intake ports are shorter.
The torque advantage the FAST has over the OEM manifold decreases some as RPM increases, but it's still an advantage...and that's one of the reasons you'll also see a bump in HP. The factory cam limits the breathing capabilities of the FAST at higher RPM's, so when you put an aftermarket cam in with more lift and duration, the gains with the FAST can be even more impressive.
That makes sense ?
If you're asking if the Nick Williams 102 Throttle Body is worth doing, along with the FAST intake, I would say skip the throttle body.
Bottom line.....the FAST intake has a larger plenum volume, and LONG intake runners. It will always outperform the stock manifold, even when ported, because of those virtues. Long runners promote intake velocity and TORQUE......the OEM manifold intake ports are shorter.
The torque advantage the FAST has over the OEM manifold decreases some as RPM increases, but it's still an advantage...and that's one of the reasons you'll also see a bump in HP. The factory cam limits the breathing capabilities of the FAST at higher RPM's, so when you put an aftermarket cam in with more lift and duration, the gains with the FAST can be even more impressive.
That makes sense ?
05-01-2013, 10:44 AM
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05-01-2013, 12:15 PM
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The FAST LSXR102 IS the intake.
If you're asking if the Nick Williams 102 Throttle Body is worth doing, along with the FAST intake, I would say skip the throttle body.
Bottom line.....the FAST intake has a larger plenum volume, and LONG intake runners. It will always outperform the stock manifold, even when ported, because of those virtues. Long runners promote intake velocity and TORQUE......the OEM manifold intake ports are shorter.
The torque advantage the FAST has over the OEM manifold decreases some as RPM increases, but it's still an advantage...and that's one of the reasons you'll also see a bump in HP. The factory cam limits the breathing capabilities of the FAST at higher RPM's, so when you put an aftermarket cam in with more lift and duration, the gains with the FAST can be even more impressive.
That makes sense ?
If you're asking if the Nick Williams 102 Throttle Body is worth doing, along with the FAST intake, I would say skip the throttle body.
Bottom line.....the FAST intake has a larger plenum volume, and LONG intake runners. It will always outperform the stock manifold, even when ported, because of those virtues. Long runners promote intake velocity and TORQUE......the OEM manifold intake ports are shorter.
The torque advantage the FAST has over the OEM manifold decreases some as RPM increases, but it's still an advantage...and that's one of the reasons you'll also see a bump in HP. The factory cam limits the breathing capabilities of the FAST at higher RPM's, so when you put an aftermarket cam in with more lift and duration, the gains with the FAST can be even more impressive.
That makes sense ?
To the OP. Start with a HP goal and a budget, then work your way backwards. Some components will hit harder than others. For example, people see huge gains with a Cam/Headers/CAI combo (100+hp) without touching the stock intake manifold or heads. If you want more, you can start playing around with porting various components and under-drive pulleys to hit a specific goal. At the end of the day, you'll have a blast no matter what direction you take....you can make these cars faasssttt
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05-02-2013, 03:31 AM
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