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Old 06-13-2013, 04:36 PM
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Does that Intake Manifold clear the stock hood? Gosh that thing is beautiful
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Originally Posted by Halltech
It's alive!

At the dyno now.

Estimating 600+ at the wheels.

We'll see.
With the only changes being the cam, heads, and mild bump in compression, and original intake setup, correct ?
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Does that Intake Manifold clear the stock hood? Gosh that thing is beautiful
It fits under the stock hood with Harrop plenums (which rob most of the power you get from the manifold itself), but we are going to do our own plenums and design it around the Halltech hood.
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With the only changes being the cam, heads, and mild bump in compression, and original intake setup, correct ?
Right. Only .2:1 increase in compression so that's not significant.
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Originally Posted by Katech_Jason
It fits under the stock hood with Harrop plenums (which rob most of the power you get from the manifold itself), but we are going to do our own plenums and design it around the Halltech hood.
How does the this manifold with the Harrop plenums compare to a traditional CAI setup? Perhaps like the MF103/CF102.

Is it a wash or worse due to the restrictions or is there still a benefit?
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Originally Posted by Katech_Jason
It fits under the stock hood with Harrop plenums (which rob most of the power you get from the manifold itself), but we are going to do our own plenums and design it around the Halltech hood.
I'm glad you brought the plenum into the equation.....it seemed to me that with the plenums in place, it would've defeated much of the advantage the ITB's would have offered, from a power output viewpoint.
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OK, you mention Can-Am...out of respect I HAVE to post the facts.

The most famous Can-Am - Porsche 917

At it's peak it made 1500hp
Weight 1609lbs
0-60 in 1.9 seconds
0-200 in 10.0
Top speed over 240mph
39+lbs of boost

I am an accomplished amateur racer and I know I could not handle this car.
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What a bad *** project!
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Originally Posted by Katech_Jason
It fits under the stock hood with Harrop plenums (which rob most of the power you get from the manifold itself), but we are going to do our own plenums and design it around the Halltech hood.
Looking forward to seeing what that will look like! BTW, what does a set up like that cost the average american? That is just a beautiful beautiful setup fellas!!!!!! PS. if you miss the 600 mark, can i have it
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606.42 RWHP/535.26lbs-ft Torque* final pull with Halltech Super Bee CF112 and Super Beehive. The new cam the KAVORKA is and animal!!! (MY NAME FOR THE CAM.) In three days, we have added 45 RWHP/10lbs-ft torque, and dropped another 10.5lbs weight.

This cam has been on my agenda since last July, and was recently on the Spintron with the same TiMo valves we have in this build, PSI Beehive Springs, Titanum retainers, superlight retainers. I will wait for Jason to post the Spintron testing along with the other results, but needless to say, this combination has the Kavorka!!! Nothing describes this package better. Jason will post the numbers today.

We are just 30 days and counting for the Carbon Revolution Wheels which are -52 lbs lighter than our OZ wheel, PSC combo. The only parts left on the UlLZ700 not carbon are the doors and fascia.

*The prior 561.07RWHP/525.47lbs-ft was with the Torquer 116 LSA and no head work. (This cam and the Ti retainers are for sale, along with our 12:1 CR heads.)

The Harrop goes on this morning, we expect 650 RWHP at least. That will be with no filtration, open hood. The Super Bee CF112 is with no outside air except what can fan through the NACA duct and bottom of the Beehive (it is not sealed completely)
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One more great job guys. I can't wait to see it at Track Attack. That thing was already a beast!
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606 RWHP AS OF 9:15. I thought he was through, but he was sidetracked by another project car.
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Originally Posted by Painrace
One more great job guys. I can't wait to see it at Track Attack. That thing was already a beast!
Thank you Jimmy.

Check out your homework for tonight. Go to the Track Attack 2012 Thread and look carefully at the first picture. Oops there you are!
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One major footnote; the 606 RWHP is without ram air of any kind. The large fans used by the majority of dyno shops are huge fans that are designed to run 30 mph airflow at the front of the car. Our NACA duct ram air needs 100 mph direct flow under dynamic conditions to start seeing increase in vacuum replacement and increases in volumetric efficiency.

I have seen directional fans (70mph+ types) that will show 10+ more hp with our type of induction. Now visualize this. The dyno in 4th gear generates all the heat and power losses to heat and friction of a 140mph run, but little airflow to the intake and marginal to the raditator. We never see water temps on the track of over 187F. On the dyno they soar to over 200F. So all the losses but little of the 140 mph airflow for cooling and dynamic ram air induction. Will you see + ambient pressure? No, but the entire intake tract will be at parity with the ambient pressure (no vacuum) and ambient IAT.

These conditions cannot be duplicated on the average DynoJet setup.
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Default Final numbers for the halltech super bee cf112 and katech cam and heads package

606.42 RWHP/535.26lbs-ft Torque* final pull with Halltech Super Bee CF112 and Super Beehive. The new cam the KAVORKA is and animal!!! (MY NAME FOR THE CAM.) In three days, we have added 45 RWHP/10lbs-ft torque, and dropped another 10.5lbs weight with our carbon rear quarter panels.

This cam has been on my agenda since last July, and was recently on the Spintron with the same TiMo valves we have in this build, PSI Beehive Springs, Titanum retainers, superlight retainers. I will wait for Jason to post the Spintron testing along with the other results, but needless to say, this combination has the Kavorka!!! Nothing describes this package better. Jason will post the numbers today.

We are just 30 days and counting for the Carbon Revolution Wheels which are -52 lbs lighter than our OZ wheel, PSC combo. The only parts left on the UlLZ700 not carbon are the doors and fascia. Total weight should be around 2759lbs no fuel.

*The prior 561.07RWHP/525.47lbs-ft was with the Torquer 116 LSA and no head work. (This cam and the Ti retainers are for sale, along with our 12:1 CR heads.

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Any idea on how much the heads added versus the cam maybe 50% and 50%? The heads were ported correct?

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Originally Posted by Halltech
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The Harrop goes on this morning, we expect 650 RWHP at least. That will be with no filtration, open hood. The Super Bee CF112 is with no outside air except what can fan through the NACA duct and bottom of the Beehive (it is not sealed completely)
If you're not careful filtration will cost you every single hp the ITB gets you...and that cross-ram style is gunna make it real difficult.

Cheers, Paul.
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Originally Posted by double06
Any idea on how much the heads added versus the cam maybe 50% and 50%? The heads were ported correct?
Yes, heads were ported. We believe that the heads enhance the camshaft and the camshaft works better with the ported heads (taking advantage of the higher lift). It's a system that works together and if you single them out individually I don't think it would add up to 100%.
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