[Z06] Am I under warranty ?
06-13-2013, 07:18 PM
#1
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Am I under warranty ?
I have a 2006 Z06 with 23k miles. (No extended warranty)
The error code 0430 reared its ugly head and I took it to the dealer, they diagnosed as a passenger side catalytic converter failure and ordered me a new one. It has arrived and I'm going back in to have replaced.
I have read that by Federal Regulation, Emission components are warrantied for 8 years / 80,000 miles. But, its not exactly clear, it appears sometimes its just 2 years / 24,000 miles on some emission parts.
Hence, no better place to ask than here.... Am I under warranty for a failed catalytic converter ? If yes, are the responsible for both labor and parts ?
Thanks
The error code 0430 reared its ugly head and I took it to the dealer, they diagnosed as a passenger side catalytic converter failure and ordered me a new one. It has arrived and I'm going back in to have replaced.
I have read that by Federal Regulation, Emission components are warrantied for 8 years / 80,000 miles. But, its not exactly clear, it appears sometimes its just 2 years / 24,000 miles on some emission parts.
Hence, no better place to ask than here.... Am I under warranty for a failed catalytic converter ? If yes, are the responsible for both labor and parts ?
Thanks
06-13-2013, 09:00 PM
#2
Melting Slicks
AFAIK, the 2006 year only had a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty (powertrain in 2007 went to 5 year, 100,000). So I would say no, you are no longer under warranty.
06-13-2013, 09:18 PM
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The convertor should be covered under the federally required emissions warranty. I have had several replaced under that warranty. It applies to all cars sold in the US and has been around for a long time. You obviously are within the mileage and time limits since the earliest 2006 Corvettes probably started going into Service was in late July of 05. Here is what the warranty covers:
Car and Truck US Federal Emissions Warranty
The Emissions Warranty can go beyond the vehicles factory warranty. If a vehicle doesn't pass a smog check or the check engine light comes on, the repair may be covered.
The Federal Emissions Warranty can cover emissions related components for vehicles up to 8 years after the in service date or up to 80,000 miles, whichever comes first. Even though a check engine light comes on or the vehicle doesn’t pass a smog check, it doesn’t necessarily mean that a part is covered under the Federal Emissions warranty.
There are two basic types of coverage, the performance warranty and the design and defect warranty.
Federal Emissions Performance Warranty
The Federal Emissions Performance Warranty covers the vehicle if it fails an emissions test in the first 2 years or 24,000 miles. Under these conditions most vehicles are already covered under the factory new vehicle warranty, so the 2 year 24,000 mile warranty is somewhat irrelevant. However many emissions components that can cause a vehicle to fail smog test, are covered up to 8 years or 80,000 miles, whichever occurs first.
Federal Emission Design and Defect Warranty
The Federal Emission Design and Defect Warranty covers the vehicle for a manufacturing design defect for an emissions component for the first 2 years or 24,000 miles. Like the performance warranty, specific major emissions components that fail due to a defect, may be covered up to 8 years of 80,000 miles.
Parts Coverage - Federal Emissions Warranty
There are literally hundreds of parts that are covered under Federal Emissions Warranty. There are however some differences from one model year to another. There are also some differences for various engines, especially when comparing a gasoline engine to a diesel engine. There are also major differences between trucks that are over/under 8,500 pounds gross vehicle weight (GVW).
Even though there are many parts covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty, there are very few that are covered for 8 years or 80,000 miles. Some parts that are covered under the Federal Emissions 8/80 Warranty are listed below. The parts coverage was taken for the model year 2007 and for gasoline vehicles under 8,500 GVW.
California Emissions Warranty
California naturally has stricter emissions standards than the Federal Government. Because of these stricter standards, California has its own coverage for 7 years or 70,000 miles. This emissions warranty is an addition to the Federal Emissions Warranty and the Federal Emissions Warranty takes precedents over the California Emissions Warranty. The California Emissions Warranty covers a lot more parts that are not covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty for 8/80.
There are also certain vehicle models that may have parts covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty that go above and beyond the normal parts coverage for 8/80. Hybrid vehicles as an example have certain components that are covered for an even greater period than 8/80.
The next time a vehicle is brought in for repairs after the vehicles factory warranty expires, don’t always assume that the repairs aren’t covered under warranty. There are other repairs after the factory warranty expires that may be covered. If a yellow check engine light comes on or the vehicle won’t pass a smog test, it may be beneficial to check with the dealership to see if the repairs are covered under emissions warranty.
Bill
Car and Truck US Federal Emissions Warranty
The Emissions Warranty can go beyond the vehicles factory warranty. If a vehicle doesn't pass a smog check or the check engine light comes on, the repair may be covered.
The Federal Emissions Warranty can cover emissions related components for vehicles up to 8 years after the in service date or up to 80,000 miles, whichever comes first. Even though a check engine light comes on or the vehicle doesn’t pass a smog check, it doesn’t necessarily mean that a part is covered under the Federal Emissions warranty.
There are two basic types of coverage, the performance warranty and the design and defect warranty.
Federal Emissions Performance Warranty
The Federal Emissions Performance Warranty covers the vehicle if it fails an emissions test in the first 2 years or 24,000 miles. Under these conditions most vehicles are already covered under the factory new vehicle warranty, so the 2 year 24,000 mile warranty is somewhat irrelevant. However many emissions components that can cause a vehicle to fail smog test, are covered up to 8 years or 80,000 miles, whichever occurs first.
Federal Emission Design and Defect Warranty
The Federal Emission Design and Defect Warranty covers the vehicle for a manufacturing design defect for an emissions component for the first 2 years or 24,000 miles. Like the performance warranty, specific major emissions components that fail due to a defect, may be covered up to 8 years of 80,000 miles.
Parts Coverage - Federal Emissions Warranty
There are literally hundreds of parts that are covered under Federal Emissions Warranty. There are however some differences from one model year to another. There are also some differences for various engines, especially when comparing a gasoline engine to a diesel engine. There are also major differences between trucks that are over/under 8,500 pounds gross vehicle weight (GVW).
Even though there are many parts covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty, there are very few that are covered for 8 years or 80,000 miles. Some parts that are covered under the Federal Emissions 8/80 Warranty are listed below. The parts coverage was taken for the model year 2007 and for gasoline vehicles under 8,500 GVW.
- Catalytic Converter
- Catalytic Converter Shield
- Transmission Control Module
- NGV Module
- Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
California Emissions Warranty
California naturally has stricter emissions standards than the Federal Government. Because of these stricter standards, California has its own coverage for 7 years or 70,000 miles. This emissions warranty is an addition to the Federal Emissions Warranty and the Federal Emissions Warranty takes precedents over the California Emissions Warranty. The California Emissions Warranty covers a lot more parts that are not covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty for 8/80.
There are also certain vehicle models that may have parts covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty that go above and beyond the normal parts coverage for 8/80. Hybrid vehicles as an example have certain components that are covered for an even greater period than 8/80.
The next time a vehicle is brought in for repairs after the vehicles factory warranty expires, don’t always assume that the repairs aren’t covered under warranty. There are other repairs after the factory warranty expires that may be covered. If a yellow check engine light comes on or the vehicle won’t pass a smog test, it may be beneficial to check with the dealership to see if the repairs are covered under emissions warranty.
Bill
Last edited by Bill Dearborn; 06-13-2013 at 09:25 PM.
06-13-2013, 09:38 PM
#4
Safety Car
Thread Starter
The convertor should be covered under the federally required emissions warranty. I have had several replaced under that warranty. It applies to all cars sold in the US and has been around for a long time. You obviously are within the mileage and time limits since the earliest 2006 Corvettes probably started going into Service was in late July of 05. Here is what the warranty covers:
Car and Truck US Federal Emissions Warranty
The Emissions Warranty can go beyond the vehicles factory warranty. If a vehicle doesn't pass a smog check or the check engine light comes on, the repair may be covered.
The Federal Emissions Warranty can cover emissions related components for vehicles up to 8 years after the in service date or up to 80,000 miles, whichever comes first. Even though a check engine light comes on or the vehicle doesn’t pass a smog check, it doesn’t necessarily mean that a part is covered under the Federal Emissions warranty.
There are two basic types of coverage, the performance warranty and the design and defect warranty.
Federal Emissions Performance Warranty
The Federal Emissions Performance Warranty covers the vehicle if it fails an emissions test in the first 2 years or 24,000 miles. Under these conditions most vehicles are already covered under the factory new vehicle warranty, so the 2 year 24,000 mile warranty is somewhat irrelevant. However many emissions components that can cause a vehicle to fail smog test, are covered up to 8 years or 80,000 miles, whichever occurs first.
Federal Emission Design and Defect Warranty
The Federal Emission Design and Defect Warranty covers the vehicle for a manufacturing design defect for an emissions component for the first 2 years or 24,000 miles. Like the performance warranty, specific major emissions components that fail due to a defect, may be covered up to 8 years of 80,000 miles.
Parts Coverage - Federal Emissions Warranty
There are literally hundreds of parts that are covered under Federal Emissions Warranty. There are however some differences from one model year to another. There are also some differences for various engines, especially when comparing a gasoline engine to a diesel engine. There are also major differences between trucks that are over/under 8,500 pounds gross vehicle weight (GVW).
Even though there are many parts covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty, there are very few that are covered for 8 years or 80,000 miles. Some parts that are covered under the Federal Emissions 8/80 Warranty are listed below. The parts coverage was taken for the model year 2007 and for gasoline vehicles under 8,500 GVW.
California Emissions Warranty
California naturally has stricter emissions standards than the Federal Government. Because of these stricter standards, California has its own coverage for 7 years or 70,000 miles. This emissions warranty is an addition to the Federal Emissions Warranty and the Federal Emissions Warranty takes precedents over the California Emissions Warranty. The California Emissions Warranty covers a lot more parts that are not covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty for 8/80.
There are also certain vehicle models that may have parts covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty that go above and beyond the normal parts coverage for 8/80. Hybrid vehicles as an example have certain components that are covered for an even greater period than 8/80.
The next time a vehicle is brought in for repairs after the vehicles factory warranty expires, don’t always assume that the repairs aren’t covered under warranty. There are other repairs after the factory warranty expires that may be covered. If a yellow check engine light comes on or the vehicle won’t pass a smog test, it may be beneficial to check with the dealership to see if the repairs are covered under emissions warranty.
Bill
Car and Truck US Federal Emissions Warranty
The Emissions Warranty can go beyond the vehicles factory warranty. If a vehicle doesn't pass a smog check or the check engine light comes on, the repair may be covered.
The Federal Emissions Warranty can cover emissions related components for vehicles up to 8 years after the in service date or up to 80,000 miles, whichever comes first. Even though a check engine light comes on or the vehicle doesn’t pass a smog check, it doesn’t necessarily mean that a part is covered under the Federal Emissions warranty.
There are two basic types of coverage, the performance warranty and the design and defect warranty.
Federal Emissions Performance Warranty
The Federal Emissions Performance Warranty covers the vehicle if it fails an emissions test in the first 2 years or 24,000 miles. Under these conditions most vehicles are already covered under the factory new vehicle warranty, so the 2 year 24,000 mile warranty is somewhat irrelevant. However many emissions components that can cause a vehicle to fail smog test, are covered up to 8 years or 80,000 miles, whichever occurs first.
Federal Emission Design and Defect Warranty
The Federal Emission Design and Defect Warranty covers the vehicle for a manufacturing design defect for an emissions component for the first 2 years or 24,000 miles. Like the performance warranty, specific major emissions components that fail due to a defect, may be covered up to 8 years of 80,000 miles.
Parts Coverage - Federal Emissions Warranty
There are literally hundreds of parts that are covered under Federal Emissions Warranty. There are however some differences from one model year to another. There are also some differences for various engines, especially when comparing a gasoline engine to a diesel engine. There are also major differences between trucks that are over/under 8,500 pounds gross vehicle weight (GVW).
Even though there are many parts covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty, there are very few that are covered for 8 years or 80,000 miles. Some parts that are covered under the Federal Emissions 8/80 Warranty are listed below. The parts coverage was taken for the model year 2007 and for gasoline vehicles under 8,500 GVW.
- Catalytic Converter
- Catalytic Converter Shield
- Transmission Control Module
- NGV Module
- Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
California Emissions Warranty
California naturally has stricter emissions standards than the Federal Government. Because of these stricter standards, California has its own coverage for 7 years or 70,000 miles. This emissions warranty is an addition to the Federal Emissions Warranty and the Federal Emissions Warranty takes precedents over the California Emissions Warranty. The California Emissions Warranty covers a lot more parts that are not covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty for 8/80.
There are also certain vehicle models that may have parts covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty that go above and beyond the normal parts coverage for 8/80. Hybrid vehicles as an example have certain components that are covered for an even greater period than 8/80.
The next time a vehicle is brought in for repairs after the vehicles factory warranty expires, don’t always assume that the repairs aren’t covered under warranty. There are other repairs after the factory warranty expires that may be covered. If a yellow check engine light comes on or the vehicle won’t pass a smog test, it may be beneficial to check with the dealership to see if the repairs are covered under emissions warranty.
Bill
What you posted is in part what I have read before. The Dealership hasn't discussed cost with me, so maybe they will offer the free repair, I don't know. I'm going to go in within the next day or two.
06-13-2013, 10:34 PM
#5
Race Director
You should battle for it to be covered if they even suggest it is not covered. If they still give no reason why that part of the warranty doesn't cover the replacement, tell them you will take it to GM Customer Service and send a complaint to the EPA.
06-13-2013, 11:41 PM
#6
Race Director
Hey Beach, miss you in the C4 section. Some members who's cars have thrown the cat code only required a computer reflash. I'm not sure what the tsb number is, but other's will chime in. Willie
06-14-2013, 12:02 AM
#7
Race Director
They may still try to get you to pay so keep at them.
06-14-2013, 11:26 AM
#8
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Trying to get the C4 back going... new set of cylinder heads on now, just have to tidy it up and will get back out racing.
06-14-2013, 11:28 AM
#9
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Here it is: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...-cat-code.html
They may still try to get you to pay so keep at them.
They may still try to get you to pay so keep at them.
Normally on issues like this, I jump in myself and delve myself into it... I know how CATS and O2 sensors work perfectly, but I'm lazy with the LSX generation and will let the dealership figure it out. At least for now I will.
06-14-2013, 04:06 PM
#11
Team Owner
I've posted this before...but I had the same code required the update via the TSB listed above. I am also stock in the engine department with original GM powertrain warranty until June 2014. Dealer charged me $120 for the re-program. I also contacted GM Customer Service, and they were no help whatsoever. Beware...every dealer is different. If I had been buddies with the service writer and/or tech...I probably wouldn't have been charged. Thats just the way it is with these clowns at bullchit GM dealer service.
06-19-2013, 05:36 PM
#12
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Just as a quick update on this....
The Dealership is giving me warranty on replacing the catalytic converter based upon the Federal Emissions 8 year/80,000 miles thing. I had to remind them on this, but its all good, they were easy to work with on it.
I did tell them about the TSB on a reflash of the program to solve this error code problem that covered I believe 2007 or 2008 + cars.... mine is a 2006. I told them to look into it.... not sure they are going too, think they are just going to replace the cat and be done with it.
Which means the error code will probably come back at some point in the future, but such is life. I'll deal with it when it happens.
The Dealership is giving me warranty on replacing the catalytic converter based upon the Federal Emissions 8 year/80,000 miles thing. I had to remind them on this, but its all good, they were easy to work with on it.
I did tell them about the TSB on a reflash of the program to solve this error code problem that covered I believe 2007 or 2008 + cars.... mine is a 2006. I told them to look into it.... not sure they are going too, think they are just going to replace the cat and be done with it.
Which means the error code will probably come back at some point in the future, but such is life. I'll deal with it when it happens.
06-19-2013, 05:53 PM
#13
Race Director
Just as a quick update on this....
The Dealership is giving me warranty on replacing the catalytic converter based upon the Federal Emissions 8 year/80,000 miles thing. I had to remind them on this, but its all good, they were easy to work with on it.
I did tell them about the TSB on a reflash of the program to solve this error code problem that covered I believe 2007 or 2008 + cars.... mine is a 2006. I told them to look into it.... not sure they are going too, think they are just going to replace the cat and be done with it.
Which means the error code will probably come back at some point in the future, but such is life. I'll deal with it when it happens.
The Dealership is giving me warranty on replacing the catalytic converter based upon the Federal Emissions 8 year/80,000 miles thing. I had to remind them on this, but its all good, they were easy to work with on it.
I did tell them about the TSB on a reflash of the program to solve this error code problem that covered I believe 2007 or 2008 + cars.... mine is a 2006. I told them to look into it.... not sure they are going too, think they are just going to replace the cat and be done with it.
Which means the error code will probably come back at some point in the future, but such is life. I'll deal with it when it happens.
I'm glad they covered the replacement, but they should have volunteered, they would have been happy to take your $ if you weren't smart enough to "remind" them.