[Z06] ALERT !!! Do You Have Fairy Dust In Your Oil ??
02-24-2015, 10:07 AM
#41
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Not to change the subject or hijack your thread but does anybody else here use GoldPlug magnetic drain plugs? They are a SUPER strong magnet and I could not believe how much more they capture over a regular magnetic drain plug. I could not believe the little afro like ball of metal dust on it the first time I changed my oil, so much I was concerned. I have been doing oil analysis from Blackstone for a while now and they always come back indicating my motor is perfect and nothing is out of the ordinary.
My question is for others using these plugs how much metal do you see on it after a 2 to 3000 mile oil change?
And for anybody not using these magnetic drain plugs I recommend that you do, you will be amazed at what they pull out of your oil.
As far as the catch can I do not have one but don't they pull the oil out of the mist and keep it from being sucked into the intake. I would think that you would not be getting any metal in that from bearings or anything and it would have to be from the catch can or oil additives not your motor but then I am no expert. Please keep us informed as to what you find.
My question is for others using these plugs how much metal do you see on it after a 2 to 3000 mile oil change?
And for anybody not using these magnetic drain plugs I recommend that you do, you will be amazed at what they pull out of your oil.
As far as the catch can I do not have one but don't they pull the oil out of the mist and keep it from being sucked into the intake. I would think that you would not be getting any metal in that from bearings or anything and it would have to be from the catch can or oil additives not your motor but then I am no expert. Please keep us informed as to what you find.
02-24-2015, 11:37 AM
#42
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DH
02-24-2015, 11:45 AM
#43
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Dumped my catch can many times. Never seen anything like this. Only time I've ever seen a glitter or anything is first change on a new motor.
02-24-2015, 11:51 AM
#44
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Not to change the subject or hijack your thread but does anybody else here use GoldPlug magnetic drain plugs? They are a SUPER strong magnet and I could not believe how much more they capture over a regular magnetic drain plug. I could not believe the little afro like ball of metal dust on it the first time I changed my oil, so much I was concerned. I have been doing oil analysis from Blackstone for a while now and they always come back indicating my motor is perfect and nothing is out of the ordinary.
My question is for others using these plugs how much metal do you see on it after a 2 to 3000 mile oil change?
And for anybody not using these magnetic drain plugs I recommend that you do, you will be amazed at what they pull out of your oil.
As far as the catch can I do not have one but don't they pull the oil out of the mist and keep it from being sucked into the intake. I would think that you would not be getting any metal in that from bearings or anything and it would have to be from the catch can or oil additives not your motor but then I am no expert. Please keep us informed as to what you find.
My question is for others using these plugs how much metal do you see on it after a 2 to 3000 mile oil change?
And for anybody not using these magnetic drain plugs I recommend that you do, you will be amazed at what they pull out of your oil.
As far as the catch can I do not have one but don't they pull the oil out of the mist and keep it from being sucked into the intake. I would think that you would not be getting any metal in that from bearings or anything and it would have to be from the catch can or oil additives not your motor but then I am no expert. Please keep us informed as to what you find.
Not sure if it could be trapped inside aerosol oil mist or not. But also its possible that more than mist flows to the can.
I guess I could take the filter medium out of the can and iliminate the medium as a possible source.
DH
02-24-2015, 12:02 PM
#45
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02-26-2015, 12:18 AM
#46
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BUMP !!
If you have a black EE Catch Can please check for goldish glitter in bottom of can after dumping oil using direct sunlight or flashlight
DH
If you have a black EE Catch Can please check for goldish glitter in bottom of can after dumping oil using direct sunlight or flashlight
DH
02-26-2015, 04:07 PM
#47
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I'm the other guy with fairy dust.
Mine had about 10x more than Howie's. His trapped oil had 3500 miles on it, mine had 2x the volume, 1 track day and about 500 street miles.
Doesn't bother me as much as it does Howie. I would just figure it was the bronze valve guides but Howie has powder metal type.
I have 75,000 miles on the lower end and 15,000 on the WCCH, in 25,000 I'm going to pull it apart and freshen everything up.
This motor runs like a 'Raped Ape' (we know raped apes are fast because no has ever seen one) puts down 545 RWHP.
I'm not too concerned with the motor it's everything else that breaks.
Mine had about 10x more than Howie's. His trapped oil had 3500 miles on it, mine had 2x the volume, 1 track day and about 500 street miles.
Doesn't bother me as much as it does Howie. I would just figure it was the bronze valve guides but Howie has powder metal type.
I have 75,000 miles on the lower end and 15,000 on the WCCH, in 25,000 I'm going to pull it apart and freshen everything up.
This motor runs like a 'Raped Ape' (we know raped apes are fast because no has ever seen one) puts down 545 RWHP.
I'm not too concerned with the motor it's everything else that breaks.
When will you be checking your can again?
DH
02-26-2015, 05:32 PM
#48
I use a can opener to cut around the join and open the filter to look for any metal etc and so far not even a fleck in the sunlight under high magnification - thank heavens.
Car is not used for track though.
Car is not used for track though.
02-26-2015, 10:37 PM
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02-26-2015, 10:38 PM
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02-26-2015, 10:41 PM
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Thanks Rocketman for the included picture.
Here his his can after only 275 miles (no track).
This is high magnification so you might need to download and then enlarge. The white specs in the bottom of his can are the gold glitter fairy dust.
If you have a black can please dump oil and check remaining oil residue!!
DH
Here his his can after only 275 miles (no track).
This is high magnification so you might need to download and then enlarge. The white specs in the bottom of his can are the gold glitter fairy dust.
If you have a black can please dump oil and check remaining oil residue!!
DH
02-27-2015, 04:17 AM
#53
I inspect with eye glasses (25 times magnification) inside the filter and drain the dregs onto a piece of paper to examine. The only question I ask myself is whether the specks could be caught in the filter paper and therefore not suspended, but it is still heartening that nothing is visible.
One would expect at least something to be visible in the filter dregs if there was a problem and more so in the filter than in the catch can. After all there is a shipload more oil through the filter than the measly bit in a catch can and theoretically the metal should not escape the filter.
I would have thought it odd to have flecks in a catch can and not have a load more in the filter. Perhaps your filter may hold a dirty secret.
02-27-2015, 09:43 AM
#54
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Yes I see the black can foto above which makes it easy to see the suspended particles.
I inspect with eye glasses (25 times magnification) inside the filter and drain the dregs onto a piece of paper to examine. The only question I ask myself is whether the specks could be caught in the filter paper and therefore not suspended, but it is still heartening that nothing is visible.
One would expect at least something to be visible in the filter dregs if there was a problem and more so in the filter than in the catch can. After all there is a shipload more oil through the filter than the measly bit in a catch can and theoretically the metal should not escape the filter.
I would have thought it odd to have flecks in a catch can and not have a load more in the filter. Perhaps your filter may hold a dirty secret.
I inspect with eye glasses (25 times magnification) inside the filter and drain the dregs onto a piece of paper to examine. The only question I ask myself is whether the specks could be caught in the filter paper and therefore not suspended, but it is still heartening that nothing is visible.
One would expect at least something to be visible in the filter dregs if there was a problem and more so in the filter than in the catch can. After all there is a shipload more oil through the filter than the measly bit in a catch can and theoretically the metal should not escape the filter.
I would have thought it odd to have flecks in a catch can and not have a load more in the filter. Perhaps your filter may hold a dirty secret.
DH
03-05-2015, 04:30 PM
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I'm waiting for more guys to seriously check their cans. All 3 of the 3 motors I have checked with black EE cans have it.
Rocket man will be checking his again soon, I'm sure.
I will check mine again this or next weekend.
Hopefully we can get better pictures.
DH
Rocket man will be checking his again soon, I'm sure.
I will check mine again this or next weekend.
Hopefully we can get better pictures.
DH
Last edited by Dirty Howie; 03-05-2015 at 04:32 PM.
03-05-2015, 09:55 PM
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03-05-2015, 11:32 PM
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03-05-2015, 11:40 PM
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03-06-2015, 01:35 PM
#60
Drifting
Howie,
I was just getting ready for a track day and emptied my catch can. It is black also. I have the goldish, copper dust in the bottom also!! I wouldn't have noticed it if I wasn't looking for it. Put a flashlight on it and it's very clearly there. I took a pic, if you PM me your email I will send it to you to post. I am picture posting challenged!
My car is a 2011 Zo7 and it is the fastest, best Z I have owned. Runs insane w / 19K on her, several track days.
I was just getting ready for a track day and emptied my catch can. It is black also. I have the goldish, copper dust in the bottom also!! I wouldn't have noticed it if I wasn't looking for it. Put a flashlight on it and it's very clearly there. I took a pic, if you PM me your email I will send it to you to post. I am picture posting challenged!
My car is a 2011 Zo7 and it is the fastest, best Z I have owned. Runs insane w / 19K on her, several track days.