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Old 03-09-2015, 11:18 AM
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Hey Guys and Gals looking for suggestions on Tires for my Car Michelin? Goodyear Run flats or not Would love to know your Input. Car only driven 1000 to 1500 miles a year mostly California Some rain occasionally. Thanks
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Michelin's are worth it don't go cheap on tires...jmho
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Michelin Pilot SS's if you dont care about retaining runflats, or Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position RFT (Run Flat Tire) if you do care. I went with the B-stones.
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Michelin Pilot Super Sports... Take our advice, you won't be disappointed.
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More info.. do you want to hook up or drive in the rain? I don't know great rain tires..maybe toyo or mic pss ...for hooking up not rain...nt05rs..mt streets..m and h....
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Michelin's are worth it don't go cheap on tires...jmho
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Michelin Pilot Super Sports... Take our advice, you won't be disappointed.
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More info.. do you want to hook up or drive in the rain? I don't know great rain tires..maybe toyo or mic pss ...for hooking up not rain...nt05rs..mt streets..m and h....
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Absolutely the Pilot Super Sports
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I love my nitto invos but I daily drive the car. I got 25K miles out of my last set.

325/30/19 = $334 each or $668 pair
275/35/18 = $209 each or $418 pair

Total of $1086 shipped. Cost between $6-$18 a tire to dismount and balance depending on where you go. So add another $100 for giggles and that comes out to $1186. Plus these tires last and are good for daily driving.
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Originally Posted by crAzy
I love my nitto invos but I daily drive the car. I got 25K miles out of my last set.

325/30/19 = $334 each or $668 pair
275/35/18 = $209 each or $418 pair

Total of $1086 shipped. Cost between $6-$18 a tire to dismount and balance depending on where you go. So add another $100 for giggles and that comes out to $1186. Plus these tires last and are good for daily driving.
Sigh you can get pilot super sports for slightly more and have a MUCH better tire and get the same mileage.
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Originally Posted by silvrhand
Sigh you can get pilot super sports for slightly more and have a MUCH better tire and get the same mileage.
For 345's (size I use)

PSS = $464.00 a tire
Invo = $340.00 a tire


That is already a $250 price difference for just the rears.
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I had been using the stock tires for a number of years and went through several sets. I never had an issue with the EMTs other than wear. They seemed fine in downpours as long as I recognized the throttle wasn't an on/off switch and they were excellent on the track. The one set I tracked worked better than the Nitto NT05s I installed the next year. I got 10 days of track usage out of a set of well worn EMTs and even when they were close to cording they still got better traction than the NT05s did anytime through their life time which was long. However, I got 26 track days out of the NT05s. For some reason the NT05s did better at autocrossing than they did on the track. I think they couldn't take the heat from track usage where the EMTs were in their element when hot.

A couple of years ago I won a raffle for Michelin tires and was able to get a set of PS2 ZPs. They come with 1/32 more tread than the EMTs and they seem to be wearing better. They are very good in rain, seem to work fine on the track but they are just as noisy as the EMTs. However, the noise is different. It is a different frequency and they won't make noise on road surfaces that made the EMTs howl but they will howl on other road surfaces where the EMTs would only make a low hissing noise. There are other road surfaces that make them both howl.

They are more expensive than the EMTs but seem to offer a longer life and just like the EMTs will not leave you stranded alongside the road if you get a puncture or blow out. Running non run flats and having a plug kit is over rated at best. If the puncture is in a repairable spot and you limit your speed to 55 mph or less you can drive 50 miles and still get the tire repaired. Do you want to be stuck alongside a freeway trying to crawl under your car to install a plug in a flat tire Vs driving to the next exit at 55 mph or less and finding a place to work on the car or determine if you can get the rest of the way home. If the puncture is small you may be able to keep adding air to the tire to extend how long you can drive without damaging the tire. If the puncture is in the sidewall of the tire you can drive it for a very long time before replacing the tire since you really aren't limited by the 50 mile distance as the tire is not repairable.

Do non run flat versions of the Michelin tires actually perform better? It is hard to say since most people who make the judgement don't run them hard enough to know whether or not they do handle better. Putt putting around town or on the highway with only a couple of 4 or 5 second WOT blasts every now and then are far from using the tires hard.

Bill
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Originally Posted by MTPZ06
Michelin Pilot SS's if you dont care about retaining runflats, or Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position RFT (Run Flat Tire) if you do care. I went with the B-stones.


Me too, wanted to keep the run flats and went with the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position RFT is a great tire, good traction for a run flat.
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Default Z06 tires what about cold weather

Anyone know if the Michelin Pilot SS are prone to sidewall cracking in the cold? Hearing too many stories of the C7 Z06 Michelin run flats cracking. It would be a real pain to have to remove the tires and bring them inside for the winter.
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Originally Posted by crAzy
For 345's (size I use)

PSS = $464.00 a tire
Invo = $340.00 a tire


That is already a $250 price difference for just the rears.
Got my PSS for $427 a tire. In my mind $87 a tire is worth it. Not saying the Invo's don't work just letting the OP know there are affordable places to get the PSS.
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Originally Posted by hot-toy
Anyone know if the Michelin Pilot SS are prone to sidewall cracking in the cold? Hearing too many stories of the C7 Z06 Michelin run flats cracking. It would be a real pain to have to remove the tires and bring them inside for the winter.
Friend of mine daily drives his on Super Sports and hasn't made any mention of the cracking issue.

In answer to Bill's question as to whether or not they work better at the limit than a run flat. IMO yes. He's a very good driver and they were the best true street tire I have ever experienced. I can only compare it to the Goodyear runflat as I have never used any other runflat's on the track. I was shocked at the grip of the SS's. Last season he was chasing me while I was in my Father's old wreck (2003 350Z Track Car) on Hoosier R6's and while I was quicker in the corners and could put power down sooner I wasn't gapping him as you would expect. The Michelins work really well.

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Originally Posted by hot-toy
Anyone know if the Michelin Pilot SS are prone to sidewall cracking in the cold? Hearing too many stories of the C7 Z06 Michelin run flats cracking. It would be a real pain to have to remove the tires and bring them inside for the winter.
If you are in an area that gets below 32F consistently then definitely do not drive an extreme summer tire in the winter. You will need a set of all season tires, pure and simple.

All summer extreme tires are prone to cracking if you freeze them.
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Stay away from the invos if price isn't an issue. They work better than the stock tires. They just don't have the best grip to pull hard away from lights. The pilot super sports (15,000 warranty) (Newer model) are a step up from the PS2's. They don't crack those issues happen on the R compound tires which are the Michelin sport cups. They can't be driven on near freezing temperatures. Actually recommend being in a climate control garage above 40 or removed from the car and stored indoors. The sport cups are R compound 80 tread wear rating (super sports 300) so the cups have less tread life but better dry grip. They are a little more harsh on the road because of a stiffer sidewall. So Pilot Super Sports for the win. PS2's as a 2nd but cost about the same. The NT05 is close to grip of the PSS & PS2 but half the tread life from what I've read compared to the PSS. You can even go NT05R (drag radial) on the back and a regular NT05 on the front of you wanna hook at low speeds. I've only had stock and currently NT05's on the car. I did research for a good 2 weeks every day and pulled the trigger on the super sports. waiting for it to warm up in Virginia so I can test them out.
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I keep wondering if Michelin is going to come out with the Michelin Super Sport ZP for the Z06. I am dealing with the OEM Supercars for now. I would just hate it if I bought the PS2 ZP and they get released right after. IMO, the Super Sport non-ZP have just too thick a look on the sidewall.


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