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[Z06] I narrowed my cam down to three choices

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I've done a ton of research on a cam for a Z06. Thanks to all of you that have posted threads and replies to them. It's been a big help. Here are the three I've narrowed it down to. Here are my desired requirements/goals. I'll be adding long tube headers. If you have experience with these cams can you please let me know your thoughts.

Raging Racin sleeper cam
Katech torquer 116
Katech torquer 110

*Minimal surging
*As close to stalk like feel
*Lope sounds isn't important to me
*Dont want a cam that's going to make the car shake
Old 11-25-2015, 02:09 AM
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Torquer 110
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Originally Posted by Rupert pupkin
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The Torquer 110 isn't close to what he's looking for with that overlap. My buddies has been tuned three times and it is nothing like stock! 12 degrees overlap which isn't crazy but not STOCK either. The low duration makes that cam still decent. Can't cruise in 4th gear at 30 mph, try 3rd. Stock LS7 cam overlap is around - 19 degrees by comparison!!!! Go with a BTR custom grind on Cam Motion lobes. Much happier from what you seem to want.

Don't get my wrong the 110 is a great cam with good tuned driveability (still has some low end surge) and a choppy idle but it does not drive anywhere near stock with a 31 degree overlap difference!

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TQ 116 will be my vote for you.

TQ 110 will shake

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I know you said you have your choices narrowed down to those three, but I am local and would be happy to let you check out my car with Cordes's Alpha Cam. I switched over from a Black Panther to the Alpha and I am completely happy with my cam in all the categories you listed.
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The RR sleeper cam is a great spec but the lift is too high, I would grind it with a .630 lift
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Originally Posted by BullDozer
I know you said you have your choices narrowed down to those three, but I am local and would be happy to let you check out my car with Cordes's Alpha Cam. I switched over from a Black Panther to the Alpha and I am completely happy with my cam in all the categories you listed.
Awesome offer of you! Op feel free to ask us any questions since your local to us.
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Originally Posted by wantbluC6
The Torquer 110 isn't close to what he's looking for with that overlap. My buddies has been tuned three times and it is nothing like stock! 12 degrees overlap which isn't crazy but not STOCK either. The low duration makes that cam still decent. Can't cruise in 4th gear at 30 mph, try 3rd. Stock LS7 cam overlap is around - 19 degrees by comparison!!!! Go with a BTR custom grind on Cam Motion lobes. Much happier from what you seem to want.

Don't get my wrong the 110 is a great cam with good tuned driveability (still has some low end surge) and a choppy idle but it does not drive anywhere near stock with a 31 degree overlap difference!
Totally! I too have the 110 that I had re-tuned in an effort to smooth things out some. Agree that the Katech 110 is a great cam that's a blast to squeeze the loud pedal with but it's not STOCK by any means WRT everyday driving manners.
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I am the anti-cam guy, but the Torquer 116 would be intriguing to me, or a Kip / Cam Motion cam (like the one featured in the last Spintron test).
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Originally Posted by Dan_the_C5_Man
I am the anti-cam guy, but the Torquer 116 would be intriguing to me, or a Kip / Cam Motion cam (like the one featured in the last Spintron test).
Yeah, a close friend had the 116 installed in his 07Z along with an A&A V-3 with 6 lbs of boost. His car drives like a dream relative to mine, only thing is I don't know how the blower is affecting his driveability. Also he does not have headers where I have 1-3/4 ARHs. Hard to get an 'apples to apples' with those differences.
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Why even cam it then?
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None of the above. Have Pat G or Cordes spec you a cam to your goals. Don't go with off the shelf.

Go drive a few cammed cars and see what you can live with.

You can drive my car around a block too if you want. Mine is a 232/246 115 LSA.

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Check out Brian Tooley Racing (BTR) cams.
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Based on many threads, seems BTR or Pat G is the way to go - mine too, was spec'd by Pat G, not off the shelf. If you really have narrowed to the three, based on what you want - the 116 - no brainer really

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Originally Posted by BullDozer
I know you said you have your choices narrowed down to those three, but I am local and would be happy to let you check out my car with Cordes's Alpha Cam. I switched over from a Black Panther to the Alpha and I am completely happy with my cam in all the categories you listed.
Thank you!!! That's really nice of you. I'll PM you. Would love to take you up on that!

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Awesome offer of you! Op feel free to ask us any questions since your local to us.
I'm sure I will have some additional questions

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None of the above. Have Pat G or Cordes spec you a cam to your goals. Don't go with off the shelf.

Go drive a few cammed cars and see what you can live with.

You can drive my car around a block too if you want. Mine is a 232/246 115 LSA.
That's great info and thank you for offering. I'll PM you. Would love to get a feel of your cam.

Nothing better than fellow Corvette owners!
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Originally Posted by Joe@CPR
Awesome offer of you! Op feel free to ask us any questions since your local to us.
I do have a question. If I'm looking into a mild cam, from what I read the horsepower gains are close to 20. Leaves me thinking, is the 20 extra ponies worth it? And if I don't opt for the cam, do I even bother with headers as it appears headers are probably the best option with a cam.....

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I believe Geoff at EPS uses Cam Motion lobes as well.. Tooley's smallest cam to me is even to big to have stock like manners. EPS has the only shelf grind I would consider 222/242 with a 117 LSA and roughly .630 lift(1.8 LS7 rockers). If that doesn't work like close to stock then nothing will for an LS7, keep you stock cam in IMO.

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Intakes, headers, tune are well worth it. I saw a solid 40rwhp gain from those.

After that, or even before that time to start head shopping and get the heads fixed. That should be #1 priority. To save money on labor that is a decent time to do a cam.

I would mill the heads .020 over a cam if you just want a mild power bump.
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Originally Posted by 2000NASSAU
I do have a question. If I'm looking into a mild cam, from what I read the horsepower gains are close to 20. Leaves me thinking, is the 20 extra ponies worth it? And if I don't opt for the cam, do I even bother with headers as it appears headers are probably the best option with a cam.....

Jason
Something mild that drives like stock with bolt on's and ported heads in AZ will do around 515-525 rwhp . Headers do pickup power on these cars so I would do them regardless.
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Originally Posted by wantbluC6
I believe Geoff at EPS uses Cam Motion lobes as well.. Tooley's smallest cam to me is even to big to have stock like manners. EPS has the only shelf grind I would consider 222/242 with a 117 LSA and roughly .630 lift(1.8 LS7 rockers). If that doesn't work like close to stock then nothing will for an LS7, keep you stock cam in IMO.
If you were looking for a mild cam this is a great spec. However I would do the cam last, add an intake fast or the MSD, milled and lightly ported heads, halltech and headers. Then if you're looking for more power after that add a cam, stock cam makes good power and with bolt ons you can make over 500rwhp

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